This ones for the sceptics!

[Ronjinsan]

I finished my latest tests today on my car's consumption and I am pleased to report......55.24 MPG! I can live with that thanks. This test was done on a preset amount of petrol applied Monday morning and the exact mileage driven till now. I drove at normal 100-120KPH on fairly open roads with average traffic. This is my normal driving experience so it will apply to me most of the time. This last test has produced the best I have ever reached from this 1600cc engine with standard carb and no electronic garbage. I am using a 9 plate cell with some active cooling, a fuel heater in line and a modified PCV! I am extremely happy to say the least! So to those non-believers and home made thermodynamic specialists!

Up Yours!

[plumabob]

Man that is outstanding!!!!!! I hope I can see similar results with my 1.6 corolla. Right now i'm working on the cooling. I built a small radiator from a section of convector used for heating your house. I have a fuel pump ordered. I took your advice and changed my plate stack to +NNN-NNN+. What may I ask is your electrolyte mix per liter? Are you using baking soda or SH? I would like to keep mine as close to yours as possible to see if I can duplicate your results.

Again congrats that is some awesome mileage!!!!

Bob

[Ronjinsan]

Hey Bob ....you can see why I'm so pleased, AND I aint given up yet! Still trying for better. My SH mix was 2 flat teaspoons in rainwater. Just remember though I have said it before, start with 1 flat spoon.It really has a lot to do with other factors like plate gap, plate thickness, water purity etc but start with one and add a little at a time until you are happy. Also, the water doesnt reach a conditioned state for 50 to 100kms, once it does the temperature evens out and the water clarity stay nice.. Best of luck

[plumabob]

OK 2 flat teaspoons I get but to how much water? Liter? gallon?

[dave4165]

Ronjinsan I have a Toyota Yaris hatch back im worred that the mods needs to make browns gas will be hard for me becauase of very limited engine compartment space. And I don't want to use my truck space . Is it still possible for me to do the mods on a Yaris hatchback. Also have questions how good is the power of your car versus regular gas. And can i go back to regular gas if i need to for emergnecy's? Thanks for yur post i do admit im a sceptic. Thats because i trust the testimony's from real people versus companys sellling products . Also can you tell me wich company you bought your information from? And wich on the market do you think is best thanks again
Dave

[Smith03Jetta]

Dave, I don't mean to take over Ronjinsan's thead but I have a couple things I'd like to comment about your post...

I was just down the street at a guy's shop. He's charging several hundred dollars to convert people's cars over to HHO.

I built 4 separate generators and produced 3 working models that I ran in my car for less than $200.00. I'm currently running a device that has about $50.00 worth of parts in it.

I did not purchase information from ANYONE. This technology is out there for the taking. It's Open Source. It's available for anyone who knows how to use GOOGLE.COM.

Yaris: I don't think anybody on here will be able to tell you how to hook up your generator in a Yaris. That's something that you will need to figure out for yourself. I have a Jetta and had to use a saw to cut some steel out from under my hood to have room to put in my generator. Every car is different and unless there's another Yaris owner on this site, then you will need to experiment to see what you can do with what space you have available. I've attached a photo of a Yaris. From what I can see, you don't have any room at all. I'd recommend bolting it to your front License Plate bracket. (Ha Ha!) You may want to trade that car in for one with some space, convert it to HHO and get better gas mileage than a Prius Hybrid or a Yaris.

In an emergency situation where you don't have water in your generator, you can just turn off the electricity to the generator. The engine will run a little lean unless you haven't modified your O2 sensors but it will get you to the closest Walmart where you can drop 72 cents USD on a new gallon of distilled water. If you have any other kind of emergency, the same applies. If you need to pull out the entire system because of the FBI tries to inspect your car or something, it takes 5 minutes, tops...

I haven't put my car on a Dyno but I do seem to have more power. The last time I noticed this much power increase was when I installed K&N air filters in my VW Touareg SUV... which, as a matter of fact, is my next target vehicle for improving MPG. That fantastic 6000 lb Gross Vehicle Weight SUV already gets 21 mpg without any help. Imagine me getting 30 mpg in it.

I can say that I've ridden in Volkswagens running Nitrous Oxide. When the driver hit the nitrous button, the engine made a sound that I had never heard before. it was sort of a cool growl like it was finally being allowed to perform at the level it was designed. When I stomp the throttle on my Jetta, I get a little bit of that growl sound. Not like the Nitrous car but enough to notice a difference. It is a little bit like the throttle response between a turbo and non-turbo model (Well, Almost)

Mr. Smith

[Smith03Jetta]

Photo of Yaris... For Laughs.

Mr. Smith

[Ronjinsan]

Bob I said 2 flat teaspoons to 1ltr but start with 1 and work your way up! Its not a science as some people on youtube would have you believe. To each his own!

[Ronjinsan]

Dave Hi and welcome to the forum! We (Caoe Town) have loads of Yaris's around as Toyota is the 'preffered' brand here. I must admit to a certain admiration for Toyota's, they may not be the prettiest things on the road but gosh they are reliable. I will try and get a look under the hood of one for you and see what the problem is! In the meantime...have a good look around yourself. What are you looking for...OK, a space against the bulkhead or pehaps around the radiator area.....doesnt have to be massive, about 6 inches square by 10 inches deep! Look again and let me know! To answer your other questions a/ my performance is startling to say the least, when I need it, its there and much smoother than before. b/ This is an add-on, its not even rocket science as some people would have you believe. You can switch it off as easily as you switched it on. c/ My information is actually everybodies....it belongs to the world. What I know I have gleened through experiment and having the common sense to sort the chaff from the seed. You will see many videos on youtube, some are good some are junk, some are from what appears to be Guru's in the field....you will need to do your own sorting but we will be here to help you anytime you need it as indicated by my friend Mr Smith! Cheers, and we hope you succeed in your tests...

[plumabob]

Thanks Ronjinsan for clearing that up!