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    Atechguy Guest

    Question Oxygen Separator??

    Another Question is there any cheap way to separate the oxygen from the hydrogen so we don't have to use 02 efies??

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    There is a way. The cheapest way I know of is to place a non conductive seperator between the positive and negative electrodes that extend from just above the top of the electrodes to the top of the container. The positive side will have the oxygen and the neg side the hydrogen.
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    dennis13030 Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Atechguy View Post
    Another Question is there any cheap way to separate the oxygen from the hydrogen so we don't have to use 02 efies??
    Have you ever seen this?

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    Atechguy Guest
    Okay thats cool what if you have cell that is sealed ? Is there any other way?? Thanks Stratous. Ohh thanks Dennis , no i haven't seen one of those, I wonder if their is a way to do it inside a bubbler.??

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    supposedly there is a way to filter the o2 with a diaphragm, but other than that I dont know.
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    dennis13030 Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Atechguy View Post
    Okay thats cool what if you have cell that is sealed ? Is there any other way?? Thanks Stratous. Ohh thanks Dennis , no i haven't seen one of those, I wonder if their is a way to do it inside a bubbler.??
    By the time the gasses make it to the bubbler, they are mixed well. The only way I know of is like the pix shows. It requires more space between the plates and ducting above each plate that extends below the electrolyte level.

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    Basically, the technology is beyond my capabilities, but they use a diaphram that is basically a filter that can seperate the o2 and h2. That is how honda and GM have set up their water car.
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    timetowinarace Guest
    Electromagnets. A tried and true method.

    It's in here somewhere.http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapt10.html

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    slimk Guest
    why does the ducting need to be slightly above the plates, would it work the same or better if it was level with the plates or even below slightly?

    how much space between the seperate tubes/plates are needed? could they be like 4-6 inches apart and still work with a decent electrolyzer? would it boost performance if in that middle ducting i had a few neutral plates stuck in there?

    speaking of electrolyzers im new to this and dont have any yet, what is the best product for being the safest/most efficent out there? where would i get KOH? if vingear is used in large amounts would it work just as well?

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    dennis13030 Guest
    Q1. Why does the ducting need to be slightly above the plates, would it work the same or better if it was level with the plates or even below slightly?
    A1. Oxygen bubbles off of the positive charged plate. hydrogen bubbles off of the negative charged plate. The bubbles rise where they can be collected and channeled(ducted). If the two plate were very close to each other, how could we keep the two gases separate? One way is to use a membrane(a separator between the two plates that current to pass but not gases).

    Q2. How much space between the seperate tubes/plates are needed?
    A2. I don't know. However, a close visual inspection of the bubbles rising should help to determine this.

    Q3. Could they be like 4-6 inches apart and still work with a decent electrolyzer?
    A3. I don't know this.

    Q4. Would it boost performance if in that middle ducting i had a few neutral plates stuck in there?
    A4. No. The charge on neutral plates are both positive and negative.

    Q5. Speaking of electrolyzers, I'm new to this and dont have any yet, what is the best product for being the safest/most efficent out there?
    A5. I would recommend the Smackbooster. Smackbooster .com

    Q6. Where would i get KOH?
    A6. This is available at many local stores. http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov...ds&id=16010001

    Q7. If vingear is used in large amounts would it work just as well?
    A7. No, KOH really is the best chemical for electrolyzers.

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