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    Post MyToyotaSucks Experiments

    ok so after running my three units for over a week now I have some obsevations.

    all are wrapped.

    #1 - 5 plates 1/6" spacing - 26 amps - 13.4 V - 1.8 LPM - 145 F

    Your system is generating 5.17 MMW HHO
    This number has been rounded down to 2 decimal places, the actual number, according to the data you entered is 5.16647531573

    This calculator will work out the MMW for you - just enter the following details:

    Volts: 13.4

    Amps: 26

    Mililitres (ml) Produced: 1800

    Amount of Seconds: 60
    #2 - 5 plates 1/6" spacing - 16 amps - 11.4 V - 1.1 LPM - 132 F


    Your system is generating 6.03 MMW HHO
    This number has been rounded down to 2 decimal places, the actual number, according to the data you entered is 6.03070175439

    This calculator will work out the MMW for you - just enter the following details:

    Volts: 11.4

    Amps: 16

    Mililitres (ml) Produced: 1100

    Amount of Seconds: 60

    #3 - 14 plates 1/6" spacing 28 amps - 13.4 V - 150 F

    Your system is generating 3.73 MMW HHO
    This number has been rounded down to 2 decimal places, the actual number, according to the data you entered is 3.73134328358

    This calculator will work out the MMW for you - just enter the following details:

    Volts: 13.4

    Amps: 28

    Mililitres (ml) Produced: 1400

    Amount of Seconds: 60
    Now according to what people are saying this should not work this way.
    that more plates are better - not!

    sticking with my 5 plates.
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    And lots of KOH (16 LBS)

    Not currently running HHO.
    I dont run HHO during winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mytoyotasucks View Post
    ok so after running my three units for over a week now I have some obsevations.

    all are wrapped.

    #1 - 5 plates 1/6" spacing - 26 amps - 13.4 V - 1.8 LPM - 145 F



    #2 - 5 plates 1/6" spacing - 16 amps - 11.4 V - 1.1 LPM - 132 F





    #3 - 14 plates 1/6" spacing 28 amps - 13.4 V - 150 F



    Now according to what people are saying this should not work this way.
    that more plates are better - not!

    sticking with my 5 plates.
    interesting sucks, I would love to see more details on your 5plate set up. pictures?

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    Just saying that more plates are/are not better is misleading. How are they configured for your given input voltage?

    A +NNNNN- configuration at 13.5 volts yields X MMW.

    A +NNNNNNNNNNNN- configuration at the same 13.5 volts won't produce much as there is not enough voltage across each plate to generate HHO. Thus a very low MMW.

    However A +NNNNN-NNNNN+NNNNN-... yields a better X MMW from the first example.

    This assumes that all things are created equal in the HHO generator and just the plate configuration is changing. It is also assuming that all electrodes inside the electrolyte are shielded from said electrolyte. And that the edges of the plates are all sealed. Without any of this your testing is invalid as the stray currents are going to give you random results.

    Hope this helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Q-Hack! View Post
    Just saying that more plates are/are not better is misleading. How are they configured for your given input voltage?

    A +NNNNN- configuration at 13.5 volts yields X MMW.

    A +NNNNNNNNNNNN- configuration at the same 13.5 volts won't produce much as there is not enough voltage across each plate to generate HHO. Thus a very low MMW.

    However A +NNNNN-NNNNN+NNNNN-... yields a better X MMW from the first example.

    This assumes that all things are created equal in the HHO generator and just the plate configuration is changing. It is also assuming that all electrodes inside the electrolyte are shielded from said electrolyte. And that the edges of the plates are all sealed. Without any of this your testing is invalid as the stray currents are going to give you random results.

    Hope this helps.
    OK my bad the 14 plate is configured +NNNNN-(1/2 spacing)-NNNNN+ and all 1/6" spacing except where noted. so it is actually two cells.

    and these are just my tests and observations.

    I am going by most output with reasonable amps.
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    And lots of KOH (16 LBS)

    Not currently running HHO.
    I dont run HHO during winter.

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    What's MMW?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HALS-GUNSMITHING View Post
    What's MMW?

    Mililitres per Minute per Watt

    there is a calculator. - http://www.watervan.co.uk/tools.php
    Come to the Darkside - We have Cookies
    And lots of KOH (16 LBS)

    Not currently running HHO.
    I dont run HHO during winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shane Jackson View Post
    Would it not be better to do:
    +NNNNN-NNNNN+ instead of
    +NNNNN-(1/2 spacing)-NNNNN+ or:
    +NNNNN-(1/2 spacing)+NNNNN-
    +NNNNN-NNNNN+
    +NNNNN-(1/2 spacing)-NNNNN+

    are the same thing

    and +NNNNN-(1/2 spacing)+NNNNN- is the same thing with more wiring.

    any way it is put down its two cells - and need way more amps due to that fact.

    ive even tried +NNNNN- as one cell and still wants a lot of amps.

    Im sticking with +NNN- it works great for me.
    Come to the Darkside - We have Cookies
    And lots of KOH (16 LBS)

    Not currently running HHO.
    I dont run HHO during winter.

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    mytoyotasucks, when you're saying 5 plates, are you just talking about your neutrals? If so then with your - & plus (dang plus key won't work) you have 7 plates in all, correct????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carolinablue View Post
    mytoyotasucks, when you're saying 5 plates, are you just talking about your neutrals? If so then with your - & plus (dang plus key won't work) you have 7 plates in all, correct????
    +NNN- works great for me
    Come to the Darkside - We have Cookies
    And lots of KOH (16 LBS)

    Not currently running HHO.
    I dont run HHO during winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mytoyotasucks View Post
    +NNN- works great for me
    I've gotcha, guess according to the time I was posting the same time you were. Thankya much, might give it a try, using the 7 plate setup right now, barely getting 1 lpm at 18 amps. Plate are 2 1/2 X 10 inches.

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