electrolyte or plates

[JonDoh]

ok.... I just discovered I use too much baking soda on 8 plates configured +-+-+-+- & the 30amp fuse kept on blowing.... earlier I only use 4 plates in the same solution & the 30 amp fuse never blew nor did it get hot. So then I lighten the electrolyte and the fuse doesn't blow and temp is stable.

For those that have experimented..... here's my question.....

Which is better for more HHO production, less amps, & cooler....

1) 4 plates with a strong dose of Electrolyte

or

2) 8 plates with weak electrolyte


I don't know which one gives out more LPM... don't have a flow meter

[Painless]

I would definitely place my money on the 8 plate setup, more surface area is always a good thing.

I'm sure this has been mentioned before and if it has, I apologise, but *PLEASE* do not use baking soda as a catalyst! Chlorine gas is nasty stuff!

[donnylynn]

Painless
Baking soda is NaHCO3. So where is the chlorine gas coming from?????

JonDoh
Doubling the number of plates while maintaing a constant ouput should lower the temp. Heat is your enemy. Based on my own experiments, NaOH will give about double the output of baking soda. I am currently experimenting with using 1.5 tsp per gallon of distilled water.

[Painless]

Sorry, I was thinking about the wrong catalyst there

[HALS-GUNSMITHING]

I heard baking soda does produce a poisios gas. Either carbon monoxide or carbon dioxide. I think backing soda is only 6% NaOH so it would require a lot more to be used as well. Either way it makes my water turn brown and I won't use.
I was thinking of trying my tap water because it is well not city water. I know it has a lot of iron in it and I don't know how this will effect my plates. Any ideas?

[hg2]

I heard baking soda does produce a poisios gas. Either carbon monoxide or carbon dioxide. I think backing soda is only 6% NaOH so it would require a lot more to be used as well. Either way it makes my water turn brown and I won't use.
I was thinking of trying my tap water because it is well not city water. I know it has a lot of iron in it and I don't know how this will effect my plates. Any ideas?

If you're using anything other than distilled water you're sure to have constant problems with deposits gumming up your cell.And IMO koh is your best bet for electrolyte.

[HALS-GUNSMITHING]

If you're using anything other than distilled water you're sure to have constant problems with deposits gumming up your cell.And IMO koh is your best bet for electrolyte.

I heard KOH was the best but it's hard to find localy. Can you explain how much and why it's better?

[patricke123]

I have a six plate configuration +-+-+- and in order to keep the fuse (30 amp) from blowing and/or the water from boiling down really quickly I was only using a 1/8 or a 1/4 of a teaspoon of 100% Lye drain cleaning I bought at Lowes per 1 gallon of distilled water. Is this a normal amount of Lye for this type of plate config?

I just tried to use 1/2 distilled water and 1/2 distilled white vinegar, but it doesn't seem to produce much HHO.

Any suggestions?

Patrick

[hg2]

I heard KOH was the best but it's hard to find localy. Can you explain how much and why it's better?

What design cell are you using and I'll try to help with the how much question.
Reguarding the why it better it's kind of a toss up between Naoh and koh.People have good results with both.Myself I tried Naoh in my dry cell and found that it created a dark brown film on most of my plates and over time left deposits at the bottom of the cells.With koh I still have a slight browning of the plates but nothing compared to using Naoh.Both are good electrolytes,it's just deciding which one will suit you best.Look over the electrolyte subforum if you havn't already,that might help you decide which is best.

[HALS-GUNSMITHING]

What design cell are you using and I'll try to help with the how much question.

+nnnnn-nnnnn+ wet cell 2" x 6" s.s. plates in 3" pvc pipe. I use about 1 tsp of Naoh in about 1qt of H2O drawing 15 amps and using 30amp PWM @ 400hz.