50 plates generator+cooling device just installed!

[Gregoryn]

Hello everyone! I just got my generator installed! Its a polygarbonate gen with Molybdenum/Nickel Alloy electrodes. I also have a self pump cooling device. After the cooling device i put an one-way valve (small aquarium type) and then a simple bubbler. There are not any natural plates on the gen. Here are some photos:
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It draws about 10 amps with less than 1/8 teaspoon per gallon BAKING SODA. The production is not somethink special. I measured more thank 1 lpm with 1/2 teaspoon per gallon BAKING SODA. Unfortunately i couldnt measure the amps on this case. After this measurement i tried to run it with 1/4 teaspoon. It started with 11-12 amps but after a little time it was blowing instantly 25 amp fuses. Then i conclude to use 1/8 teaspoon.

After about 100 km of driving i tried to touch the gen. Good news: it was not even warm! I could keep my hand on it as long as i want.

Tomorrow morning i will install a dual map sensor. I forgot to say that i have encharge a profesional on car electronics to make the whole install.

1st problem: The water became dirty. I think that i have to forgot the baking soda... Guys, do you think that it is a good idea to try vinegar (as the constructor suggests) or i have to go straight to KOH?

2nd problem: Water and baking soda scraps goes from cooling device to the bubbler. Not a lot but i think its still a problem. My check valve is already brown. I didnt use a bubbler on the beginnng so a little amount of this water+soda went to my engine:(

3rd problem: I think that i need a little more HHO production

I will be glad if i receive your opinion guys! Greetings from sunny and hot Greece!

[Cyr]

It's the baking soda that is causing the color change. I tried vinegar and baking soda (after the initial reaction of the two, the water is calm) and it seems to get rid of most of the discoloration, but a little is still there. There's also a little boost in production. When using KOH or NaOH, I haven't had the color problem, and it produces more than baking soda does.

[BoyntonStu]

Do NOT use or encourage others to use BAKING SODA!

Please.

BoyntonStu

[BigTruck]

If that is the unit from March-Labs, then the electrolyte is supposed to flow to the bubbler, which is also doubles as a cooler. I would check with march-Labs to see what electrolyte they reccommend.

[jazmie]

use directly KOH

my experient

salt-water dirty in a minute
baking sode-water dirty and smell bad....some said it produce clorine gas
KOH-perfect...water clean and produce great gas

[Gregoryn]

Thanks guys. I will go directly to KOH soon!



If that is the unit from March-Labs, then the electrolyte is supposed to flow to the bubbler, which is also doubles as a cooler. I would check with march-Labs to see what electrolyte they reccommend.

Indeed the gen is from March-Labs. The problem is that a small amount of electrolyte went from the cooling device directly to the engine... Then i used an extra bubbler and the electrolyte goes from the cooling device to the bubbler and made it a little dirty.

[kiki]

had the brown water issue as well. this combination works, i did find out

- stainless steel (all parts inside the generator!)
- rainwater
- sodium hydroxide

i had brown water untill i started using rainwater instead of tap water....

arjen