View Full Version : 100 plate dry cell config for semi or large trucks ?
pdai11
10-30-2011, 08:24 AM
I am looking to build a dry cell with possibly using around 100 S/S plates measuring around 7" x 7" but don't know much about configurations. Like to know if just by using 12v or 24v and upto 30 amps, can 10 LPM of HHO be produced ?
Appreciate with any help, thanks
BioFarmer93
10-30-2011, 11:54 AM
No, sorry. The lpm produced scales pretty linearly with the amps available to the reactor. Figure roughly 14A per lpm for electrical needs.
pdai11
10-30-2011, 04:02 PM
How many liters per minute would you reckon on my set-up as stated ?
BioFarmer93
10-30-2011, 07:12 PM
How many liters per minute would you reckon on my set-up as stated ?
~2.2 lpm if everything is done right.
Havens78
10-30-2011, 08:35 PM
You have enough plates to do quite a few reactors to produce 2 LPM, i don't have any experience with running 5 separate reactors in parallel though so i'm not even sure that would work if you had the space.
pdai11
10-30-2011, 09:10 PM
God, that is amazing low output considering the amount of plates it's using ?
myoldyourgold
10-30-2011, 10:10 PM
You will need 200 volts DC and 101 plates at 10 amps to make about 10 liters a minute just using brute force.
BioFarmer93
10-30-2011, 10:40 PM
God, that is amazing low output considering the amount of plates it's using ?
pdai11,
Yes, it is a lot of plates, but he stated that he only had 30A to work with. Amperage is what determines (if you have sufficient plate area) what your lpm will be on well prepared plates.
pdai11
11-01-2011, 12:15 PM
So if i use 240v ac (UK mains) and use a converter to 12v dc and use around 100 plates, and as stated by myoldyourgold would produce around 10 lpm of HHO, would the plates last long and stays cold enough for 40 minute run daily ?
thanks
myoldyourgold
11-01-2011, 12:20 PM
So if i use 240v ac (UK mains) and use a converter to 12v dc and use around 100 plates, and as stated by myoldyourgold would produce around 10 lpm of HHO, would the plates last long and stays cold enough for 40 minute run daily ?
thanks
No No 200 volts DC 101 plates and 10 amps makes 10 lpm!!! This would have to be in one stack and not practical in a flow through sealed series design.
myoldyourgold
11-01-2011, 12:47 PM
At 12 volts 10 amps though 100 plates in series would make no gas at all (0.12v per cell/pair). You need a minimum of 1.20 volts per cell/pair to make gas and that will not be measurable but visible. 1.75 volts per cell does make measurable gas but unless the reactor is very efficient does not compare with 1.97 to 2.3 volts per cell/pair.
Now in your 100 plate reactor, if you ran the plates parallel -+-+- etc you would boil the water almost instantly at 12v and 10 amps per cell/pair.....well very quickly anyway and blow a fuse or something faster so nothing would happen unless you had a huge rectifier etc. LOL What are you trying to do?
pdai11
11-01-2011, 05:13 PM
No No 200 volts DC 101 plates and 10 amps makes 10 lpm!!! This would have to be in one stack and not practical in a flow through sealed series design.
Yes, that was what i was considering, one stack of around 100 plates powered from a 3000w 240v ac to 12v dc converter, would this be right ?
BioFarmer93
11-01-2011, 07:55 PM
Yes, that was what i was considering, one stack of around 100 plates powered from a 3000w 240v ac to 12v dc converter, would this be right ?
No, that wouldn't be right- but I think I do see what you're trying to do here so lets do a little math, shall we?
100 plates with a wet area of 36 sq.in. is 3600 sq.in.. At 1/4 amp per square in. that is still 900 amps. x 2V for ~1800watts. I show this not because I believe for a second that you have a source for that kind of amperage, but to give us an idea of the size of diode's that you'll need to obtain to make your converter (rectifier). These should do the trick for you- http://www.weldmart.com/store/diodes.htm
You'll need two each of straight polarity and two each of reverse polarity, a sturdy insulated material to mount their heat-sinks that they'll need on, (plastic cutting board comes to mind), two 100mm x 150mm finned aluminium heat sinks, a mains voltage 100mm dia. computer fan to blow across them and a heavy duty electrical switch to turn the whole mess off and on with. You are obviously a madman and probably a danger to your neighborhood, so you should fit right in here... Let me know if I can be of any more assistance...;):D