Will Somebody Help Me Shut This Guy Up!

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I have been going back and forth with a guy from Australia. In his videos he claims to be making 4-5 liters of HHO at 12 amps. You can clearly see in his video that he is only putting out maybe 1 LPM, but for some reason he insists that he is putting out much more because he is using a professional flow meter. Please check out this video and read the comments. He is very arrogant and says that we "Americans" are a bunch of morons basically, and that he is eons ahead of us. I am begging everyone here to pounce on this guy, PLEASE!

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[BioFarmer93]

Viewed, evaluated, slammed... See "clflyguy"

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Viewed, evaluated, slammed... See "clflyguy"
Thanks Bio! Let's see some more, let's have some fun with this guy! This kind of crap has got to stop.

[Roland Jacques]

I have been going back and forth with a guy from Australia. In his videos he claims to be making 4-5 liters of HHO at 12 amps. You can clearly see in his video that he is only putting out maybe 1 LPM, but for some reason he insists that he is putting out much more because he is using a professional flow meter. Please check out this video and read the comments. He is very arrogant and says that we "Americans" are a bunch of morons basically, and that he is eons ahead of us. I am begging everyone here to pounce on this guy, PLEASE!

Yeah, i thought closed the case with your video rebuttal that Ash posted a few weeks ago.
I had the exact same argument with another here in America who spouted the exact same-thing. The "my flow meter is better than yours" argument.

I think your video of what gas flow looks like speaks VOLUMES. keep up the good work. I'll try to help if i can.

[MtnGoatXJ]

With all those bubbles, one can clearly see with our calibrated eye, thats almost 4 lpm for sure!
:D

[H2OPWR]

This guy is an idiot simple as that.

[R&D4me]

Well after watching his video closely, you my notice that since he has "Tuned" that 30amp PWM we see there to the "Resonant Frequency of the Capacitance",(What he claims in video) it's the invisible bubbles that produce the extra 4LPM... :rolleyes:




:D

[kimbo]

i recon with my calibrated eye its at least 10 lpm!..... NOT

[Roland Jacques]

FWIW
I was looking over some data from a HHO researcher / retailer.

He has a Coriolis Mass Flow Meter. I think they cost about $3000 & up.
He ran a number of side by side tests with a good water displacement Eudiometer and the Coriolis Mass Flow Meter.

His results showed the high dollar mass flow meter reading 34-35% higher than the water displacement test. :confused:

To me this is like going to a gas station with a 5 gallon gas can, filling it up and the pump says you put 7 gallons in it. Then having the attendant try to convince you to pay for 7 gallons because his pump has a great flow meter. :rolleyes:

It would be nice to get to the bottom of these discrepancies.
I really think they are just not able to work On browns gas / HHO. While they might be able to calibrate for H2 and O2. But HHO may be charged in a way that cant always be adjusted for. :confused:

[Roland Jacques]

Mileageseekers had some flow meters calibrated for HHO.... 3.0lpm on the gauge converts to 2.08lpm (verified against an alicat that was specially programed for HHO)

The problem is the gas must be absolutely DRY! Any moisture and the flow meter will show a higher volume. If you are not running thru a condensing coil and then a large descant dryer, your just fooling your self.

The best method is the 2L bottle "endometer"????? The bottle in a bucket..... I don't trust.
Do you know if have they every compared their flow meter to Eudiometer and how did it compare?

[myoldyourgold]

Do you know if have they every compared their flow meter to Eudiometer and how did it compare?

Roland, it depends on the reactor and the descant filter. Most units I have tested that claim big numbers are only making 1 liter for every 20 amps of dry gas at the best most are much worse. That should give you an idea of how far off it is. Moisture like Shane says makes a huge difference. Now as long as it does not have electrolyte in the moisture then it is usable and beneficial, maybe more so than an equal volume of dry HHO when dealing with a stubborn ECU. You can then argue about quality of the HHO.... yes I know but that still has to be proven at least to me. Not saying that it is not possible just need proof when someone is claiming that their reactor is producing a better quality gas, other wise it is just a sales pitch.