Fast Freddy's latest video very convincing

[Roland Jacques]

I Must say i do believe we are looking at the real deal with Freddy's cell. I was a bit sceptical with a open mind at first. While i still cant explain to myself some things he claimed id have to say IOM he is more credible than not. Just my opinion

I still want to see third party confirmation but i believe he hit the spot on the Free Energy / zero point energy / Fusion / OU.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaAAdeqSMFE&playnext=1&videos=4o_KYk2ked8&feature=mfu_in_order

[H2OPWR]

I Must say i do believe we are looking at the real deal with Freddy's cell. I was a bit sceptical with a open mind at first. While i still cant explain to myself some things he claimed id have to say IOM he is more credible than not. Just my opinion

I still want to see third party confirmation but i believe he hit the spot on the Free Energy / zero point energy / Fusion / OU.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaAAdeqSMFE&playnext=1&videos=4o_KYk2ked8&feature=mfu_in_order

Roland, I know you want to beleive as do most of us. I still think it is all BS. You can not even see where the amp meter is connected or most anything at all. Most unbeleivable is his claim of running the Dodge on just HHO. Somehow it all melted down after 3000 miles of not getting any 3rd party verification. Sorry to disagree but way too many unanswered questions. We can not even clearly see behind the buckets or the connections to the tube cell. I could make a way more beleivable video than that and lie like hell to get investors just like he is but I prefer the high road.

Larry

[higherpoweredh2o]

larry I gotta agree with ya on this one....These guys claim to have the holy grail and they put on a 3 minute video? And they claim a dodge to run on 100% and dont have it verified? I live 2 hrs from them and I just get the run around.... there are too many Sheeple in this world, I wont be one of them..I hope they prove me wrong but i call b.s.

Rob

[H2OPWR]

larry I gotta agree with ya on this one....These guys claim to have the holy grail and they put on a 3 minute video? And they claim a dodge to run on 100% and dont have it verified? I live 2 hrs from them and I just get the run around.... there are too many Sheeple in this world, I wont be one of them..I hope they prove me wrong but i call b.s.

Rob

Rob, They will never prove you wrong. They will only prove you and I right. Just think for a second. If you had a vehicle running only on water. That s free energy falling fron the sky in the form of rain. Now you were able to drive 3000 miles on just water. Would you make a Youtube video looking for investors or would you grab your banker and take him for a ride. He would give you a key to his vault just for a chance to loan you any amount of money you wanted to get this on the market? You would only have to repay his loan and it would be all yours. Venture capatilists want part of the action not just interest. He is getting week minded greedy people to give him their money in hopes of getting even richer, Unfortunately there are too many folks outhere willing to take that chance.

Larry

[Roland Jacques]

Roland, I know you want to beleive as do most of us. I still think it is all BS. You can not even see where the amp meter is connected or most anything at all. Most unbeleivable is his claim of running the Dodge on just HHO. Somehow it all melted down after 3000 miles of not getting any 3rd party verification. Sorry to disagree but way too many unanswered questions. We can not even clearly see behind the buckets or the connections to the tube cell. I could make a way more beleivable video than that and lie like hell to get investors just like he is but I prefer the high road.

Larry

Disagreement is fine. (leads to clarity sometimes)
I base my opinion on The series of videos, the Yahoo group, The interview/stories on PESWiki (the ex-partner interview was very interesting) and things i've seen with HHO unrelated to this. I'm not saying this is it for sure , im just saying keep an eye on this we may be surprised.

PS. You can see in the video where the meter leads are hooked directly to the battery (follow the leads in the first 40 seconds) through the meter to the PWM. (although that still does not mean they aren't hiding something somewhere else.)
Also i think Adam was a non related third party Observer/helper who got on board through PWESiki for what ever that's worth.

[Roland Jacques]

Rob, They will never prove you wrong. They will only prove you and I right. Just think for a second. If you had a vehicle running only on water. That s free energy falling fron the sky in the form of rain. Now you were able to drive 3000 miles on just water. Would you make a Youtube video looking for investors or would you grab your banker and take him for a ride. He would give you a key to his vault just for a chance to loan you any amount of money you wanted to get this on the market? You would only have to repay his loan and it would be all yours. Venture capatilists want part of the action not just interest. He is getting week minded greedy people to give him their money in hopes of getting even richer, Unfortunately there are too many folks outhere willing to take that chance.

Larry

I no conspiracies are hard to beleive, but to think that there would be no interferance from outside forces for something with the potential to upset the marketplace like free/ultra cheap energy would have is naive IMO. Just look at Bloom Energy as an example. The Bloom Box would have never made it to market without one ULTRA big backer investing $500,000,000 and the 3 years of secrecy in order to protect its patent... and the Bloom Box is VERY expencives, and will only have a very small impact on energy market!
Most inventors believe you cant even get a patent on a working free energy device because _______(fill in the blank).

When spot on flea control came out (Advantage, frontline...) for dogs and cats. My one pet store lost over $250,000 in sales due to the drop in other flea control products. That is what progress cost me on a simply little product like flee control.
The guy who invented the smokeless cigarettes was giving 5 million dollars from tobacco just to sit on his invention for a while. Businesses, Banks ... do have motivation to stifle progress in some cases. The list is long with folks paid not to release stuff. Just saying not as straightforward as it seems to rock the world with free energy.

[dstar]

I have been following this for a couple of months. Have been working on validating his work. I was able to talk with Fred on one occasion. We talked about the video about achieving "threshold". There are several things he doesn't say in the video that are relevant. He actually added KOH and I thought he said "Hydrogenated Lye". I am not familiar with that so wonder if he meant Hydrolyzed Lye. Also, the aluminum wire running from the bucket out of the picture was attached to an aluminum folding chair which was sitting on a rubber mat to insulate it from ground. He told me that it didn't work until both ingredients and connection to the chair was made. He said that the chair gathered ions from the air and that the combination of the chemicals, ions, etc produced tritium that powered the process. This is why in the video he talks about not wanting to find his assistants "playing tidilee winks with their hands in the bucket. Says he thinks there is about 80k volts in the water. Also, he said the PWM is set at 100HZ, which is a default setting with the jumper removed. You can get this PWM on ebay from a seller called Arizonavideo for about $100.
Still doesn't prove anything, but thought you would be interested in the rest of the story. I am pretty close to having everything for replication. Will keep you posted.

[Roland Jacques]

Thanks for your insight Dstar

Please keep me posted about your progress. I must admit it is getting harder to stay optimismistic about this.

[dstar]

I attempted to replicate the "Threshold test".
Used all the same things (as far as I could tell).
Summary:
4 gal tap water in 5 gal bucket
2 TBLS Hydrolyzed Lye, 2 tsp KOH
Tube was 316L 7" inside, 6" outside. Appropriate wall thickness per future energy concepts website.
Carriage bolt welded to inner tube at bottom and smoothed.
Bolt welded to outer tube at base.
Used nylon set screws to set tube spacing.
Wrapped tubing set with alum wire which held up the tube in the bucket and also fastened to an alum folding chair sitting on a rubber mat. (ion collector according to Fred)
Ran 12vdc through my ampmeter and then to the PWM. Used the same one Fred uses. Set at 100HZ DC Mod per Fred.
Turned gain up until the unit reached 3 amps. Unit was bulbling away as expected. Turned gain up to max per Fred. Amps went above 20 and stayed.
No decrease in current. Threshold not achieved.

On a side note, I am not sure about the Hydrolyzed Lye. Fred talked about using Hydrogenated Lye. If someone knows about that, please share.
The fluid in his bucket was much thicker that anything I saw in mine.

And one other detail... the resulting gases were incredibly flammable when lit. Seemingly beyond any previous tests where it burned slower. Nothing scientific, just lighting them up and watching the results.

Thanks.

[Roland Jacques]

Another video that has some credibility. IMO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfUPBaktU24&feature=mfu_in_order list=UL

Zero FF had some interesting observations (under comments). Flame color in the previous video being orangish is one.

I certainly wish they tested this in a clearer environment directly to a gen-set would be best. with amps, volts...

[higherpoweredh2o]

I for one will wait for a better video... I can go into my shop right now and allow a cell to build 80psi and run a v-8 for 20 to 30 seconds...my concern is this guy showing a room full of people hho at high pressure... i have purposely put 50 psi in a tube and detonated it... not a pretty picture. This guy has sidestepped all my questions and never made it possible to verify other dodge...I personally think its a scam but hope its not...But to all who try to replicate be very carefull, hho at that kind of pressure is suicidal...just ask the poor soul who died in simi-valley last year....

[Roland Jacques]

I for one will wait for a better video... I can go into my shop right now and allow a cell to build 80psi and run a v-8 for 20 to 30 seconds...my concern is this guy showing a room full of people hho at high pressure... i have purposely put 50 psi in a tube and detonated it... not a pretty picture. This guy has sidestepped all my questions and never made it possible to verify other dodge...I personally think its a scam but hope its not...But to all who try to replicate be very carefull, hho at that kind of pressure is suicidal...just ask the poor soul who died in simi-valley last year....

Yeah I have not seen enough to make me want to duplicate anything of his. Especially being that involved and costly. Ive seen some crazy numbers when it comes to over Faraday HHO stuff, but it was very different than what Freddy's doing. Some of these older HHO gurus are into some wild type of HHO production. i just dont know if Freddy is one of them.
Hopefully if not Freddy some other HHO guru will step up one day varify and share (in that order).

[Roland Jacques]

higherpoweredh2o

It looks like Freddy is getting some assistance from Square 1 Energy in finding the sweet spot for their Proto 7 cell. Sounds like a good match up in technologies. If all the fantastic talent at Square 1 can't get it performing as desired, it may be time for revisiting Proto 6. Which verson did you make?

[Farrahday]

I have been following this for a couple of months. Have been working on validating his work. I was able to talk with Fred on one occasion. We talked about the video about achieving "threshold". There are several things he doesn't say in the video that are relevant. He actually added KOH and I thought he said "Hydrogenated Lye". I am not familiar with that so wonder if he meant Hydrolyzed Lye. Also, the aluminum wire running from the bucket out of the picture was attached to an aluminum folding chair which was sitting on a rubber mat to insulate it from ground. He told me that it didn't work until both ingredients and connection to the chair was made. He said that the chair gathered ions from the air and that the combination of the chemicals, ions, etc produced tritium that powered the process. This is why in the video he talks about not wanting to find his assistants "playing tidilee winks with their hands in the bucket. Says he thinks there is about 80k volts in the water. Also, he said the PWM is set at 100HZ, which is a default setting with the jumper removed. You can get this PWM on ebay from a seller called Arizonavideo for about $100.
Still doesn't prove anything, but thought you would be interested in the rest of the story. I am pretty close to having everything for replication. Will keep you posted.


Personally guys, I think we have to take anything and everything Freddy says with a pinch of salt as he clearly doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. And I'm not just being cynical for the sake of it. For a start KOH is Potassium Hydroxide, or its laymans name, Caustic Potash, not Lye. Lye is Sodium Hydroxide (NaOH), or its laymans name Caustic Soda (not to be confused with Cream Soda!).:) So this simple blunder must surely put doubts in your mind about his education, knowledge and indeed his competence in science - all of which I feel adds up to very little!

Like many people I've been following the videos from the start and initially I was prepared to give the guy the benefit of the doubt - even though reason was screaming it was a hoax and Freddy a scammer.

Well it seems that Freddy has yet to show anything by way of proof or have anything independently verified (and I know of a few groups that have been in contact FF in order to to this, but have always been fobbed off with excuses).

Let's be honest here, most of his videos are an utter waste of time and quite pointless. The recent video that showed the truck running on gas for about 15 seconds, if anything, only serves to show that it does not work. What a ridiculous video to upload! :confused: And there's the dumb guy with the video constantly saying, the engines running on water... NO IT'S NOT, it's running on hydrogen!

The most interesting video of all is the 'threAshold' bucket video, but not enough detail is given and it looks like Freddy has just had a shave in the bucket which rather conveniently obscures our vision. Freddy says the cell is making its own electricity (which of course is utter nonsense) and also states in the following video (and contrary to what he apparently says in the quote above) that the aluminium wire hanging over the bucket is just a tie to hold the cell upright! I mean come on, 80,000V... and producing 'tritium'!:rolleyes:

Freddy and his oppos are quite obviously waaay out of their depth when it comes to the science, and are undoubtably just making it up as they go along.

Why, if achieving so-called 'threshold' is the key (and it would have to be), is he pumping 200-odd amps through his cell? Why is this 'threshold' no longer been mentioned in the videos? And why has he apparently reverted to pointless brute force electrolysis? Something is now very amiss... and probably always has been.

I know of a few gullible folk who have donated generously to 'the cause'... and who are now starting to get a 'sinking' feeling.

This is going nowhere and Freddy is digging an ever-deeper hole from which he won't be able to clamber out of with any dignity. At least that's how I see it.

[Roland Jacques]

Farrahday, I'm sorry your friends gave money to Freddy. Personally i don't understand why anyone would donate $$ when it has not been proven to have benefited anybody. I think experimenting with the info is a little different.

There videos have not gotten any clearer. There last video showing 12 MMW production test was still not a clear video. And while 12 MMW is fantastic by most standards, it would not be good enough to run a truck. (as they described) There first reported numbers added up to many times higher than 12 MMW so....
Their excuse that "it was pressurized therefore it was more production than we showed measured" is wrong, if not a out right lie:confused:.

I'm still waiting to see what come out of the meeting with Square 1 Energy. The Square 1 Energy folks have a lot of experience with Over Faraday production. I hope they will share there opinions or better yet there results on this "Freddy cell".

[Farrahday]

Hi Roland

It isn't any of my personal friends that have donated monies to FF, rather just a few gullible people I'm acquainted with. It tends to be the religious folk and people totally uneducated in the science that fall for this sort of scam. The good - but naive - folk that blindly accept everything they are told without question, and take everyone at their word. Sad really.

A healthy dose of scepticism is no bad thing in this field of science and technology.

Yes, I had to laugh when Freddy justified the low gas output by saying it was compressed because it was under pressure! Clearly those lazy bubbles were under no pressure at all. He's really clutching at straws now!

I think Freddy's got big problems heading his way. Not only has his credibility with the educated taking some severe knocks, but the trust and faith his retarded fan club have put in him will soon begin to dissipate. The money donatees aside, even FFs devoted followers will only take so much fobbing-off before they turn on him!

[Farrahday]

And the bull**** continues... and continues...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKH3Of-91Po

What is he playing at, lol. Probably the most pointless video yet. Surely can't be too long now before the **** hits the fan good and proper! :)

[xXToteXx]

I no conspiracies are hard to believe, but to think that there would be no interference from outside forces for something with the potential to upset the marketplace like free/ultra cheap energy would have is naive IMO.

Absolutely. (For the record hello I'm Tote new to the board). But, people often forget that just because there are conspiracy THEORIES doesn't mean there is no such thing as conspiracy and/or conspiracy FACT! Conspiracies have and do happen, often. Again the definition of conspiracy being: One or more people planning to do something in secret. If that is considered impossible in someones mind, they probably also believe producing HHO is as easy as lighting a lighter in a bucket of water. lol


Businesses, Banks ... do have motivation to stifle progress in some cases. The list is long with folks paid not to release stuff. Just saying not as straightforward as it seems to rock the world with free energy.

Yes, there are so many hands in the energy pot that you aren't just stepping on a few peoples toes with free energy, you're draining the pocketbooks of kings and queens, rich and poor, and everyone inbetween who has investments in oil. Now, my personal opinion is: tough sh*t! You made a bad investment, and used a military industrial complex to make your investment seem like not so bad of an idea. When it comes to killing people to keep the flow of money coming in, that's where I draw the line. Without getting too much into my own philosophies because, really, who really gives a sh*t this is an HHO forum, (I mean honestly their my philosophies and even I hardly care for them really haha), but, even lunatics, (by ones perspective), deserve to live and move freely in my opinion, including the very lunatics, (by my perspective), who are suppressing the technology! Everyone likes money, and when we have an abundance of money, holy sh*t look out now... so I mean, I get it. We like having money! But again this is where the importance of business ETHICS come in. Technology suppression is a GREAT business strategy for oil companies, with holocaust like ethics...

[xXToteXx]

By the way, watched the video. Not impressed. Never heard of this fast freddy guy but I'm certainly not ready to send the guy some money after watching that video...

[dstar]

Fred and the Square One team are pretty close to releasing a product.
What I do know is that they are running the latest cell at 2.8 volts, 30 amps, and are getting about 458 hp at the wheels on a dyno. (with the truck they purchased for this purpose) That's less that 90 watts.

While it all sounds pretty far out there, it's close enough to release that it might be wise to hang in there to see the final product. That's what I plan on doing.

[Roland Jacques]

Thanks Dstar

I'm looking forward to seeing something of substance finally being released.

[Michaeljp86]

I call bs on that one

[Farrahday]

Fred and the Square One team are pretty close to releasing a product.
What I do know is that they are running the latest cell at 2.8 volts, 30 amps, and are getting about 458 hp at the wheels on a dyno. (with the truck they purchased for this purpose) That's less that 90 watts.

While it all sounds pretty far out there, it's close enough to release that it might be wise to hang in there to see the final product. That's what I plan on doing.

They've got doodle-squat... and that's all they've ever had!

I think by now it surely must be quite clear to all but the most devoted, gullible religious muppets, that it's been a scam from the start.

FF's rather pathetic and very pointless videos are only surpassed by the utter drivel that has come out of his mouth over the last few months!

[BioFarmer93]

Hey Farrah,
Don't hold back hon, just say what's on your mind..:D:D I always do:eek: