Questions about HHO

[dg2010]

Hallo

I am new here and hope you will be able to answer what might be naive questions.

I have a 2.8 Pajero Turbo Diesel. No O2 sensor.

My first concern is finding a suitable injection point which has to be at a low pressure point, which means before the turbo, but I worry about inputting a volatile gas at this point. Any flash back would be through the intercooler, turbo and trunking. Presumably fitting a venturi closer to the manifold would not be practical.

What sort of gas flow should I be looking for for a 2.8.

Do you get a build up of gas if sitting in traffic for instance.

What sort of current flow should I expect.

Thanks

[dg2010]

Thanks for the reply.

I am unsure about the Enhancer. Did you mean MAF or MAP or are they the same. Not sure how or where these would be wired in on a diesel.

[dg2010]

One of the same. I am not familiar with your car spec, most vehicles have a MAF or MAP to govern the airflow except those with carb ICE.

Thanks

Will have to look around. There is a small pipe coming off the turbo which I assume goes to the injector pump to measure pressure. Haven't traced it through yet - got a cold east wind blowing at the moment and does not encourage going outside :)

The Pajero is similar to the Shogun or Montero depending on which country - mainly cosmetic differences.

[dg2010]

I have come across a system which I would value an opinion on please, and is it what you would describe as a wet system - not sure on the definition. Dry cells to me have not contained fluid - as in torch batteries etc.

http://www.hydroxy7.co.uk/products-page/full-kits/

[dg2010]

Thanks

Just to clarify. Is the system in the link above classified as a wet system and does anyone have an opinion on it please?

[lhazleton]

This unit is a wet cell design. With only 3 bi-polar plates per stack, it's
not very efficient and its production (1.5LPM) includes lots of steam, not just Hydroxy.

[dg2010]

This unit is a wet cell design. With only 3 bi-polar plates per stack, it's
not very efficient and its production (1.5LPM) includes lots of steam, not just Hydroxy.

Thank you for that. Takes while to get my head around this technology.

[BeaverRat]

OK, that website says it produces 2.2 liters/minute at 13 volts 16 amps. That would mean that it has an MMW of about 11:eek: which is impossible. It is fake and even if it does produce what apears to be that much, the vast majority of it is steam.

[N11634]

Thank you for that. Takes while to get my head around this technology.

I'm right there with ya, guy! :eek:

[lhazleton]

N11634: Great avatar you've got there!

[N11634]

Thanks! It's my avatar on all the forums I'm a member of. I don't even remember where I found an EGA that spun. I had to have it, though!;)

I was a SMAW gunner when I was in. I've been out 10 years now....seems like yesterday.

[lhazleton]

I hear ya....Time flies & the Corps never leaves you. I was a Radio Operator
from '74-'77. Sometimes I can still feel the damned PRC-25 on my back. Back then they were heavy suckers!

[N11634]

They were still using those dinosaurs when I got out! All that radio was was a priority target for the enemy! Comm sure has come a long way!

[dg2010]

OK, that website says it produces 2.2 liters/minute at 13 volts 16 amps. That would mean that it has an MMW of about 11:eek: which is impossible. It is fake and even if it does produce what apears to be that much, the vast majority of it is steam.

Thanks for that

As a rule of thumb, what sort of output should I be looking for on a 2.8 diesel TD?

[dg2010]

Thanks - got something to aim for now.

Had a reply back from one supplier who produce a dry cell as follows:-


Our system produces slightly less than a liter of gas a minute at 12 amps
and will have a beneficial effect at between 8 and 12 amps, you can
experiment at first with 8 then if you find you are only getting say 20%
better fuel mileage, put more koh in and bring the amps up to 10 amps. You
will probably find this is enough and any more hho gas after this point has
little benefit. Much more hho than this can have a quenching effect on the
combustion flame front.
This level of hho production is within the engines working range from tick
over to full power, you should feel as if the engine is running very
smoothly and has more low down torque, it's subtle but it is noticeable, if
you allow the unit to run out of water the engine feels a bit breathless and
lower on torque. I have people who have said that they would fit this cell
just for the engine feel even if there was no fuel economy benefits.
Your emissions will be very low and an engine like yours should save 25% to
35% on fuel and around two tons of carbon per annum.

From what I know so far, this cell is not that efficient.