1st DRY CELL ATTEMPT tell me what you think

[Jordan_Bailey84]

Hi, I have decided to make a dry cell using a 29 electrode 6x6'' 18-16ga 316L
-NNNNNN+NNNNNN-NNNNNN+NNNNNN- configuration. I will be using 30 1/8'' rubber gaskets to cover 1/2'' of the outside edges of each plate. A 1/4'' hole will be drilled at one of the lower corners of each plate, the holes will be staggered so that they rotate left to right from plate to plate (sory if thats confusing). A 3/8'' hole will be drilled at the top center of each plate for HHO flow and escape these "top HHO flow holes" will all be lined up through the top center of each of the 29 plates. This will eventualy be going into my 03 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 4.0L engine. Please tell me what you think it has taken me some time to determine exactly where I want to go with this project, and now that I'm about to get the ball rolling your feed back would be greatly appreciated. How does my setup sound to you, do you think it will work well and what should I change or look out for. Thank you.

[Jordan_Bailey84]

Im not too sure exactly what LPM I want but i figured with this setup i could get more than enough and fine tune it to exactly what gives me the best MPG. now the high number of N plates was something that I put alot of thought into and here is my reasoning, I meanured my battery while the car was running and I get about 13.65v so what I did was 13.65/7=1.95v (7 being the number of plate gaps) and from what I have read was almost exactly what I wanted. Now if I did 13.65/6=2.27v it was to my understanding that it could possibly draw too many amps and/or get hot. Would it be better for me to run less N plates, and would I be able to keep it cool enough, Thank you for your feedback

[Jordan_Bailey84]

Thanks again for your input. I probably should have posted this thread before I gave my sketch to my guy for the plates, but i will keep what you said about the diamond and smaller =izer holes, hopfuly i can get ahold of him in the morning and change that hole size. Thanks again

[H2OPWR]

Thanks again for your input. I probably should have posted this thread before I gave my sketch to my guy for the plates, but i will keep what you said about the diamond and smaller =izer holes, hopfuly i can get ahold of him in the morning and change that hole size. Thanks again

Jordan, I agree with Shane. I have been down this long rocky road many times. A 6n setup will be far less effecient for an automotive application than a 5n setup. With stainless you should shoot for between 2 and 2.2 volts per plate gap. Your effeciency will drop above that slowly and below 2 volts per gap your effeciency with stainless plates will drop as well but much faster than it will as it goes up. Please experiment and teach us something but the number of n plates is well documented.

Larry

[Jordan_Bailey84]

So when I get my plates and gaskets and everything I will be experimenting with the number of N plates keeping your sugestions in mind. I will post my results with pictures when I do so. hopfuly I can have this up and running before I take my 700 mile drive down to South Carolina for Thanksgiving. Thanks again guys.

[Roland Jacques]

If you dont already have them, Rubber gaskets would not be my first choice for gaskets, EPDM or neoprene would probably be better.

http://www.quickcutgasket.com/roll_sheet_material.html

[Jordan_Bailey84]

No I have no yet purchased any gaskets and thank you for the advice I am looking into gaskets now (did not realize how expensive these things would be) just not sure if I should go with 1/16'' or 1/8'' and is there a difference in the EPDM and neoprene, i am trying to determine what the differences would be with the spacing any input in this area would be a big help, also I was wondering if the finish on the plates makes any difference, I can polish it to a mirror finish satin finish or sandblast

[Jordan_Bailey84]

I have a guy nbear my work that im going to have cut the gaskets for me but thanks for the offer. what do you think of 3/32'' neoprene 50a, I still am stumped on gasket thickness, was thinking of a soft 1/8 that I could crank down to maybe 3/32 or just a stiff 1/8 or 3/32 I dont know, also any knowledge on plate surface finishes?

[Jordan_Bailey84]

so its been some time since i gave my plate sketch to a buddy but after patiently waiting 2 long months due to material being shipped to the wrong place allong come 30 nicely stacked 16G 6x6 316L stainless plates and all it coast me was 24 heineken.

[Jordan_Bailey84]

here are some more pictures of the plates and other parts
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b324/Jordan_Bailey/DSC00547.jpg

before and after the blasting and deburring

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b324/Jordan_Bailey/DSC00544.jpg

5 have tabs for electrical connections

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b324/Jordan_Bailey/DSC00539.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b324/Jordan_Bailey/DSC00551.jpg

my 8x8 acrylic plates all drilled and threaded

[Jordan_Bailey84]

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b324/Jordan_Bailey/DSC00540.jpg

my neoprene gaskets that I had made

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b324/Jordan_Bailey/DSC00549.jpg

a little custom work on the screws for clearance reasons

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b324/Jordan_Bailey/DSC00555.jpg

quick mock up