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BennyLava
06-27-2009, 02:58 AM
I know this question is really impossible to tell. I would bet that even the oil companies themselves have only a vague idea. Especially since they have not tested all areas. Just the areas that they plan on using soon. Maybe what i should ask is, how long will the oil last, that is in the middle east. Has anyone heard any projections believed to be somewhat close to accurate? There is a finite amount, however large that amount may be.

HHO BLASTER
06-27-2009, 10:33 AM
I know this question is really impossible to tell. I would bet that even the oil companies themselves have only a vague idea. Especially since they have not tested all areas. Just the areas that they plan on using soon. Maybe what i should ask is, how long will the oil last, that is in the middle east. Has anyone heard any projections believed to be somewhat close to accurate? There is a finite amount, however large that amount may be.

We can grow are own oil now, so who cares, only the people that don't know it

there is more oil locked in sand tar then in the ground or water but again at what cost to get it out :D:D:D

oicu812
06-27-2009, 01:41 PM
peak oil production was reached in 2005, best estimates give us about 30 years left at this rate of consumption. as viable supplies dwindle cost will increase. gas at ten bucks a gallon is p0ssible by 2015

BennyLava
06-27-2009, 04:41 PM
So it will be killed before it dies of old age...

oicu812
06-28-2009, 08:47 AM
it looks like gasoline will be the fuel of choice for auto makers for many many years. electric vehicals and biofuels seam to be the cheapest viable option.the biggest stumbling block is cost.
at purdue university there working on a aluminium gallium alloy that is formed into pellets and put in a portable tank. when ordinary tap water is added it produces amazing amounts of h2.when the tank is empty it gets recycled back to the factory where 100% of the gallium is recovered and the alumina is recycled back into aluminium . the start up cost for such a system would be staggering but once gas hits $4.00 a gallon, a chemicaly produced h2 system would be cheaper. this system solves the problem of transportation production and storage of hydrogen on demand. this system is completely environmently friendly.

Roland Jacques
06-28-2009, 09:23 AM
it looks like gasoline will be the fuel of choice for auto makers for many many years. electric vehicals and biofuels seam to be the cheapest viable option.the biggest stumbling block is cost.
at purdue university there working on a aluminium gallium alloy that is formed into pellets and put in a portable tank. when ordinary tap water is added it produces amazing amounts of h2.when the tank is empty it gets recycled back to the factory where 100% of the gallium is recovered and the alumina is recycled back into aluminium . the start up cost for such a system would be staggering but once gas hits $4.00 a gallon, a chemicaly produced h2 system would be cheaper. this system solves the problem of transportation production and storage of hydrogen on demand. this system is completely environmently friendly.

Electric cars dont solve any fossil-fuel problems at all. As long as our electricity is being generated from mainly from fossil fuels...

I like to know how much energy is used for the making of the aluminum pellets?

"Completely environmentally friendly"??? ( I'm not sure there is such a thing) how is the energy, used to make the alloy pellets, made?

Philldpapill
06-28-2009, 01:59 PM
LOL Enviromentally friendly? Gallium isn't all that friendly to start with. I read an article about the purdue research, some time ago, and was fairly impressed. However, they never say what the energy efficiency is in CREATING the aluminum-Gallium nano alloy. In fact, if I recall correctly, they hardly even mentioned that it TAKES energy to make the nano alloy. That's a pretty big thing to leave out. Who cares if you can make massive amounts of H2, if it is only 10% efficient?

BennyLava
06-28-2009, 04:36 PM
Well you could have solar, wind, natural gas, and nuclear make all the electricity for electric cars. I don't see why they don't just bulldoze all the coal burners and put in nuclear. They put the new models so far beneath the ground these days, that even in the extremely unlikely event of nuclear disaster... nothing would happen up here where we live.

Philldpapill
06-28-2009, 05:03 PM
Good question - why DON'T they put in a bunch of Nuclear plants?

Answer: Because that's not part of the "green" agenda. Why do you think asking 10 random people on the street "Is Nuclear energy good or bad", yields 8 of them avidly against it? 7 out of those 8 don't even have a clue as to HOW the process works... The reason is that constantly in the media, you are hearing about how Nuclear is soooo dangerous, and soooo hard to dispose of. That's total BS. The people that DO know a tidbit about Nuclear, like to quote Three Mile Island as their case in point of why it's so bad.

If anything, Three Mile Island should be a poster child for how WELL Nuclear power is designed. Everything that failed, did so exactly the way it was designed. How many times have we heard of a coal mine collapsing, a natural gas fire, etc. etc.?

Bottom line: Coal, Natural Gas, and other CO2 emitters are attacked on the basis of being a global warming catalyst. Nuclear is attacked for allegedly not being safe. Now that wind is starting to come in to it's infancy, it too is being attacked for birds flying into them(wtf? who cares). I'll bet you $1,000 Solar will start being attacked in the very near future for it's heavy metal waste during manufacturing. Oh wait, nevermind - it already has begun.

The purpose of all of this isn't so much an "eco-friendly" way of life, but an attack on energy itself. What better way to control a people if you can convince them that their very existance is a menace to the world?

Roland Jacques
06-28-2009, 06:06 PM
It really is incredible that we use so little nuclear energy.
I dont think many understand what a great energy option it truly is.

BennyLava
06-28-2009, 07:56 PM
Now that wind is starting to come in to it's infancy, it too is being attacked for birds flying into them (wtf? who cares).

LOL! That is funny. I agree, who gives a flying sh!t about birds that are stupid enough to fly into a rotating blade? I mean, they're not even endangered birds for crying out loud. In oklahoma they had massive windmills always spinning and making electricity. They were huge. Bigger than most buildings in oklahoma city. But yeah correct me if i am wrong, but dont the build the new models of Nuclear power plants so that even if it came to the worst, nothing on the surface of the earth would be affected? Everybody hates chernobyl, but that's what you get when you put complete soviet retards in charge of a nuclear power plant. Those guys were obviously the equivalant of homer simpson. Who is only a cartoon character but still manages not to blow up the nuclear power plant that he works at... yet the idiot ruskies still found a way to do it. Talk about incompetent...

sorry sometimes i ramble.

oicu812
06-28-2009, 08:41 PM
LOL Enviromentally friendly? Gallium isn't all that friendly to start with. I read an article about the purdue research, some time ago, and was fairly impressed. However, they never say what the energy efficiency is in CREATING the aluminum-Gallium nano alloy. In fact, if I recall correctly, they hardly even mentioned that it TAKES energy to make the nano alloy. That's a pretty big thing to leave out. Who cares if you can make massive amounts of H2, if it is only 10% efficient?

I sugest you get your facts straight
While not considered toxic, the data about gallium are inconclusive. Some sources suggest that it may cause dermatitis from prolonged exposure; other tests have not caused a positive reaction. Like most metals, finely divided gallium loses its luster. Powdered gallium appears grey. When gallium is handled with bare hands, the extremely fine dispersion of liquid gallium droplets which results from wetting skin with the metal may appear as a grey skin stain.
the aluminium oxide or alumina is in your toothpaste.
alumina is used to aluminium by not having
to mine bauxite and create alumina to make aluminium the cost of this process can compete with gasoline. the break even point is $4.00 a gallon. the gallium is not used up in this process and can easily be recoveredl

BennyLava
07-12-2009, 12:34 AM
Maybe that's what actually happens in 2012. The whole world runs out of oil. If you believe in that kind of stuff, that is. Think of what kind of chaos the world would be thrown into right now, if the last drop was siphoned up this morning. It would be devastating, even if only for a few years.