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HHO BLASTER
05-26-2009, 10:55 PM
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Scientists find bugs that eat waste and excrete petrol
Silicon Valley is experimenting with bacteria that have been genetically altered to provide 'renewable petroleum'
Some of the complex lab equipment used to make some new strains of genetically modified bacteria
Image :3 of 3Chris Ayres “Ten years ago I could never have imagined I’d be doing this,” says Greg Pal, 33, a former software executive, as he squints into the late afternoon Californian sun. “I mean, this is essentially agriculture, right? But the people I talk to – especially the ones coming out of business school – this is the one hot area everyone wants to get into.”

He means bugs. To be more precise: the genetic alteration of bugs – very, very small ones – so that when they feed on agricultural waste such as woodchips or wheat straw, they do something extraordinary. They excrete crude oil.

Unbelievably, this is not science fiction. Mr Pal holds up a small beaker of bug excretion that could, theoretically, be poured into the tank of the giant Lexus SUV next to us. Not that Mr Pal is willing to risk it just yet. He gives it a month before the first vehicle is filled up on what he calls “renewable petroleum”. After that, he grins, “it’s a brave new world”.

Mr Pal is a senior director of LS9, one of several companies in or near Silicon Valley that have spurned traditional high-tech activities such as software and networking and embarked instead on an extraordinary race to make $140-a-barrel oil (£70) from Saudi Arabia obsolete. “All of us here – everyone in this company and in this industry, are aware of the urgency,” Mr Pal says.

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What is most remarkable about what they are doing is that instead of trying to reengineer the global economy – as is required, for example, for the use of hydrogen fuel – they are trying to make a product that is interchangeable with oil. The company claims that this “Oil 2.0” will not only be renewable but also carbon negative – meaning that the carbon it emits will be less than that sucked from the atmosphere by the raw materials from which it is made.

LS9 has already convinced one oil industry veteran of its plan: Bob Walsh, 50, who now serves as the firm’s president after a 26-year career at Shell, most recently running European supply operations in London. “How many times in your life do you get the opportunity to grow a multi-billion-dollar company?” he asks. It is a bold statement from a man who works in a glorified cubicle in a San Francisco industrial estate for a company that describes itself as being “prerevenue”.

Inside LS9’s cluttered laboratory – funded by $20 million of start-up capital from investors including Vinod Khosla, the Indian-American entrepreneur who co-founded Sun Micro-systems – Mr Pal explains that LS9’s bugs are single-cell organisms, each a fraction of a billionth the size of an ant. They start out as industrial yeast or nonpathogenic strains of E. coli, but LS9 modifies them by custom-de-signing their DNA. “Five to seven years ago, that process would have taken months and cost hundreds of thousands of dollars,” he says. “Now it can take weeks and cost maybe $20,000.”

Because crude oil (which can be refined into other products, such as petroleum or jet fuel) is only a few molecular stages removed from the fatty acids normally excreted by yeast or E. coli during fermentation, it does not take much fiddling to get the desired result.

For fermentation to take place you need raw material, or feedstock, as it is known in the biofuels industry. Anything will do as long as it can be broken down into sugars, with the byproduct ideally burnt to produce electricity to run the plant.

The company is not interested in using corn as feedstock, given the much-publicised problems created by using food crops for fuel, such as the tortilla inflation that recently caused food riots in Mexico City. Instead, different types of agricultural waste will be used according to whatever makes sense for the local climate and economy: wheat straw in California, for example, or woodchips in the South.

Using genetically modified bugs for fermentation is essentially the same as using natural bacteria to produce ethanol, although the energy-intensive final process of distillation is virtually eliminated because the bugs excrete a substance that is almost pump-ready.

The closest that LS9 has come to mass production is a 1,000-litre fermenting machine, which looks like a large stainless-steel jar, next to a wardrobe-sized computer connected by a tangle of cables and tubes. It has not yet been plugged in. The machine produces the equivalent of one barrel a week and takes up 40 sq ft of floor space.

However, to substitute America’s weekly oil consumption of 143 million barrels, you would need a facility that covered about 205 square miles, an area roughly the size of Chicago.

That is the main problem: although LS9 can produce its bug fuel in laboratory beakers, it has no idea whether it will be able produce the same results on a nationwide or even global scale.

“Our plan is to have a demonstration-scale plant operational by 2010 and, in parallel, we’ll be working on the design and construction of a commercial-scale facility to open in 2011,” says Mr Pal, adding that if LS9 used Brazilian sugar cane as its feedstock, its fuel would probably cost about $50 a barrel.

Are Americans ready to be putting genetically modified bug excretion in their cars? “It’s not the same as with food,” Mr Pal says. “We’re putting these bacteria in a very isolated container: their entire universe is in that tank. When we’re done with them, they’re destroyed.”

Besides, he says, there is greater good being served. “I have two children, and climate change is something that they are going to face. The energy crisis is something that they are going to face. We have a collective responsibility to do this.”

Power points

— Google has set up an initiative to develop electricity from cheap renewable energy sources

— Craig Venter, who mapped the human genome, has created a company to create hydrogen and ethanol from genetically engineered bugs

— The US Energy and Agriculture Departments said in 2005 that there was land available to produce enough biomass (nonedible plant parts) to replace 30 per cent of current liquid transport fuels
Have your say
A couple of points:
Firstly, this process isn't entirely carbon neutral because although the bacteria use CO2 from the atmosphere to convert the biomass into fuel, this doesn't mention the carbon already contained in the plant material which would be released as well once burnt. continued...

Robin, Southampton, UK

The 205 sq miles that would be needed to process the waste are just for the vats - and doesn't include the land area that would be needed to grow the sugar needed to run this process. This gives us the same problem as the idea of running our cars on maize.

Its a nice idea but it wont save the world

Robin, Southampton, UK

If something is genetically modified it does not mean it is capable of wiping out the human race. Any pathogenic genes will be undoubtably removed by the men in white coats. These types of bacteria also require very specific growth conditons and outside the reactor their growth would be restricted

David, Lanchester, England

Q-Hack!
05-26-2009, 11:28 PM
The question of the day is:

Once they figure out what type of plant produces the best quantity of fuel, how many farmers will convert to that plant such that they make more money than if they grew food crops. Just because they are aiming at food crop waste doesn't mean that is what the gas companies are going to require farmers to grow.

HHO BLASTER
05-27-2009, 12:15 AM
The question of the day is:

Once they figure out what type of plant produces the best quantity of fuel, how many farmers will convert to that plant such that they make more money than if they grew food crops. Just because they are aiming at food crop waste doesn't mean that is what the gas companies are going to require farmers to grow.

Nay not a plant its a bug, i like algae better if this manmade bug gets loose who the fu*ck knows what could happen

I suppose the new algae could also be a problem

Q-Hack!
05-27-2009, 03:02 AM
Nay not a plant its a bug, i like algae better if this manmade bug gets loose who the fu*ck knows what could happen

I suppose the new algae could also be a problem

Ever hear of the term "Grey Goo"? :eek:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_goo

H2OPWR
05-27-2009, 03:31 AM
If people keep f**ing with nature creating genitic mutants soon we will have no idea what is next.

BoyntonStu
05-27-2009, 07:39 AM
If people keep f**ing with nature creating genitic mutants soon we will have no idea what is next.

Ever eat spaghetti?


The flour used in "normal" spaghetti was genetically mutated using X-Rays about 65 years ago.

I enjoy this genetically modified food.

You?


BoyntonStu

Wednesday May 9 9:14 AM ET

Italy Says Mutant Spaghetti Story a Slur

By David Brough

ROME (Reuters) - Italy rallied to defend its most celebrated national dish
Wednesday after a German newspaper said wheat used to make spaghetti came
from strains that had been mutated by radiation.

Agriculture Minister Alfonso Pecoraro Scanio, a member of the Greens and a
fierce critic of genetically modified foods, said: ``This is the umpteenth
attack by the Germans...against sectors in which we are Europe's main
producers.''

He told reporters waiting outside Wednesday's cabinet meeting in Rome that
he would ask Foreign Minister Lamberto Dini to protest to the German
government.

``I have asked Dini to contact the German government because we do not
accept attacks on leading Italian fare at a time when we are exporting a
great deal of high-quality produce,'' he said.

The article in Tuesday's Frankfurter Allgemeine said people who were worried
about genetically modified foods had no idea that much of today's crops were
genetic mutations developed in rich countries in the 1960s with the help of
radioactivity.

It was sourced mainly to the Vienna-based nuclear watchdog the International
Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), which keeps a record -- based on voluntary
information from seed growers -- of all plants exposed to radiation to
induce mutations.

IAEA spokesman David Kyd was quoted as saying IAEA records showed that at
the end of last year, 2,252 types of plant were being grown around the world
which stemmed from such treatment.

``Whether Texan grapefruit, American or Asian rice, Italian hard wheat or
jute for a (shopping) bag that has 'No nuclear power' printed on it, most of
these plants have been exposed to radioactivity in nuclear plants or in the
fields,'' the article said.

Front Page News

Italy's reaction was that the article was a baseless affront to national
pride.

``Hands off our spaghetti,'' ran the banner headline of Communist newspaper
Liberazione, featuring a photograph of comic actor Alberto Sordi tucking
into a huge plate of spaghetti in the movie ``An American in Rome.''

``Achtung! Dangerous spaghetti,'' was the front-page headline of Turin daily
La Stampa, which said: ``This news, in the context of uncertainty over
genetically modified foods, creates further confusion and unfounded fears.''

Italy's National Institute for Foreign Trade said in a statement: ``The
denigratory campaign from afar which tries to show that the ingredients of
the Mediterranean diet are harmful to health...cannot be accepted.''

A southern Italian pasta manufacturer, Francesco Divella, told Repubblica
newspaper: ``We will take whatever measures are necessary to avoid the
defamation of our product.''

Italy's biggest farmers' group, Coldiretti, said Italian spaghetti posed no
danger. Confagricoltura, an association of big agricultural producers,
warned against alarm over pasta.

Q-Hack!
05-27-2009, 03:17 PM
I find it funny that most of the organically grown food here in the US is actually genetically altered (designed to be bug resistant, mostly). Must drive the hippies bonkers knowing that.

http://www.aspb.org/publicaffairs/briefing/gmorg.cfm