Roland Jacques
05-04-2009, 08:18 PM
My idea is to verify an electrolyser’s output efficiency and maybe clearing up some over unity MMW readings. By testing the energy of the gas we produce we may shine some light on two questions.
1. Can there possible be a gain in BTU by converting watts into HHO? Seems that the rules and laws say no. But some folks still claim this to be possible.
2. I am also thinking this is a good way to test for comparing different types of electrolysers. Especially if a cell you have seems to be performing at say 10 MMW or higher.
(Maybe helping to determine how much of our gas is actually HHO or …???)
Here is what I have in mind.
Measuring the gas’s ability to heat.
A Water Heating Torch.
A simple torch could be made to get max available heat from HHO while under water. It would involve placing the flame in a long tube, like a long narrow upside down SS cup fully submerged. Also adding extra air to the gases from a regulated air pump to get max heat. (A 5 psi Tetra Luft pump would work) I don’t think this would be hard to build.
Example
Take a 350 Watts water heating element (I have titanium aquarium heating elements) put it in a 10 gallon aquarium. Monitor and record the water's temp Heat raise, over Time, and Watt usages.
Then, or at the same time, do the same for a HHO torch that is consuming total 350 watts. (A PMW should be allowed to dial in wattage)
Question #1 could be answered this way. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
Then you could take the MMW of the cell, while in the torch configuration, > and by doing some math and possible determine whether HHO does, or does not, have something extra to it, that Faraday's rule misses?
Then question #2 to could be tested in the same fashion.
Do you guys think this would this be a good test?
1. Can there possible be a gain in BTU by converting watts into HHO? Seems that the rules and laws say no. But some folks still claim this to be possible.
2. I am also thinking this is a good way to test for comparing different types of electrolysers. Especially if a cell you have seems to be performing at say 10 MMW or higher.
(Maybe helping to determine how much of our gas is actually HHO or …???)
Here is what I have in mind.
Measuring the gas’s ability to heat.
A Water Heating Torch.
A simple torch could be made to get max available heat from HHO while under water. It would involve placing the flame in a long tube, like a long narrow upside down SS cup fully submerged. Also adding extra air to the gases from a regulated air pump to get max heat. (A 5 psi Tetra Luft pump would work) I don’t think this would be hard to build.
Example
Take a 350 Watts water heating element (I have titanium aquarium heating elements) put it in a 10 gallon aquarium. Monitor and record the water's temp Heat raise, over Time, and Watt usages.
Then, or at the same time, do the same for a HHO torch that is consuming total 350 watts. (A PMW should be allowed to dial in wattage)
Question #1 could be answered this way. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
Then you could take the MMW of the cell, while in the torch configuration, > and by doing some math and possible determine whether HHO does, or does not, have something extra to it, that Faraday's rule misses?
Then question #2 to could be tested in the same fashion.
Do you guys think this would this be a good test?