My tests and pics and etc

[mytoyotasucks]

Ok have been using my bath type cell for 4 months now with a 4 plate design = -nn+.

and have pics of the PVC container and plates after that time.

And the biggest problem(why I removed it) was that one of the SS straps i use from bolts to plates corroded or burnt off due to bad contact, caused by a loose bolt, as seen in one pic - looks like it heated and melted.
but the electrical tape stayed on the straps - not the plates.

will be going to dry cell like painless.

As always - would like feedback, thanx D

[Q-Hack!]

Picture # 2 looks like your bolt got a little hot. This is usually caused by to much voltage per plate gap. I had that happen on one of my first designs. The +||- setup is ok for a 6 volt vehicle, not a 12v system. I would suggest on your next version, go with +|||||- and increase your electrolyte slightly for better production and less heat.

[mytoyotasucks]

Ok went to -nnnnn+ all used plates

and results after 75 minutes.

Voltage 10.7
Amperes 14
Seconds 60
Milliliters 850
Total # of Plates 7
# of Cell Stacks 1
Barometric Pressure 1017
Gas Temperature: 88Fahrenheit


Your MMW= 5.67
Theoretical Volume produced
by 100% Faraday Efficiency Milliliters 974
Your percentage of
Faraday Efficiency 87.3%

better than i thought.

[H2OPWR]

Ok went to -nnnnn+ all used plates

and results after 75 minutes.

Voltage 10.7
Amperes 14
Seconds 60
Milliliters 850
Total # of Plates 7
# of Cell Stacks 1
Barometric Pressure 1017
Gas Temperature: 88Fahrenheit


Your MMW= 5.67
Theoretical Volume produced
by 100% Faraday Efficiency Milliliters 974
Your percentage of
Faraday Efficiency 87.3%

better than i thought.

Those are some good results with only 10.7 volts and 6 plate gaps. Great Job! You and others have made this work while every time I go below 2 volts per plate gap I am left with a headache. Maybe as Russ suggests it is die ti plate size. What are your plates spaced at?

[mytoyotasucks]

Those are some good results with only 10.7 volts and 6 plate gaps. Great Job! You and others have made this work while every time I go below 2 volts per plate gap I am left with a headache. Maybe as Russ suggests it is die ti plate size. What are your plates spaced at?

i use 1.8mm nylon washers or 0.071 in.

and ive not been able to do this with new plates - even new preped plates - 304 SS switch plates.

[H2OPWR]

i use 1.8mm nylon washers or 0.071 in.

and ive not been able to do this with new plates - even new preped plates - 304 SS switch plates.

Maybe that is my problem. IMPATIENCE. What has happened to your mileage since removing the cell?

Larry

[mytoyotasucks]

Maybe that is my problem. IMPATIENCE. What has happened to your mileage since removing the cell?

Larry


ya before i tried a smack, and could get near no production, that why i went to the 4 and 5 plate designs.

added pic of what the plates looked like after i took the cell apart.
Notice that the electrical tape held up better than the shrink wrap.

and I also found that the dark plates will produce more than new preped plates.

now to burn "in" the new plates.:D

Might be diff for ither types or plates(316L), i dont know -only have one plate of 316L - 3X3".

[mytoyotasucks]

OK new dry cell tests

not sure if im doing this right but : 7 switch plates , and here is the results

Voltage 13
Amperes 4
Seconds 110
Milliliters 5000
Total # of Plates 7
# of Cell Stacks 1
Barometric Pressure 998

Gas Temperature: Fahrenheit: 97

Your MMW= 5.244
100% Faraday Efficiency Milliliters 528.4708
Your percentage of Faraday Efficiency % 94.61

ok I know its low amps, but need to mix a better sulution of electrolye.

and this is my first test of it after running 40 min, wanting to see if my gaskets will hold up.

[mytoyotasucks]

vids ov my new dry cell.

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[VanHalen]

So whats your MPG with no cell now?

[mytoyotasucks]

So whats your MPG with no cell now?

On my 83 Deville, I get around 23 MPG(Canadian)

[mytoyotasucks]

pic of my dry cell gaskets

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww301/mytoyotasucks/drycellgaskets1.jpg

[mytoyotasucks]

ok next dry cell test

13 plates +NNNNN-NNNNN+

.082 gap

10% KOH by weight

15 amps cold 13V

results to come.

[mytoyotasucks]

ok next dry cell test

13 plates +NNNNN-NNNNN+

.074 gap

10% KOH by weight

15 amps cold 11.4V


500ml - 40 sec

mmw - 4.39

Theoretical Volume produced
by 100% Faraday Efficiency - 690 Milliliters

Your percentage of
Faraday Efficiency - 72.4%

a slightly smaller plate gap made a big difference. from .082 to .074 doubled the out put and temp came down.

proves testing is required per unit, to find out gap needed for that unit type.

[mytoyotasucks]

This is the last cell and configuation i have used and will continue to use.
It is a wet cell (find it more reliable) with titanium plates(23 plates in a 3 cell ), producing about 4.5 LPM at 25 - 28 amps.
I use a air compressor dryer(aprox $15) to filter out steam and water.
I use a map sensor enhancer and an EFIE to control sensors.
My average milage gain is 18 - 22%.
I use a laptop or tablet to monitor the different sensors, so i dont overheat or lean out and harm the motor.
Pic included.


http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n250/jeepdude10000/HHO/HHOdiagram-1.jpg

[hhofox]

Hi,
Just wondering, where are your bubblers in relation to the dryer?

[mytoyotasucks]

Hi,
Just wondering, where are your bubblers in relation to the dryer?

I dont use bubblers.

[hhofox]

OH, no bubbler?!
Why not?
How does that work out for the NaOH or KOH fumes entering your engine?
Please enlighten me.

[mytoyotasucks]

I use an air dryer that takes any water or wetness out.
I find it works good.