new cell questions

[Zzyzx]

We justassembled a dry call design. it is 6 cells with 5 neutrals.
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The plates are 51/2 by 5 1/2 inches. The gap is .100. We used 6 inch
square profile "O" rings for gaskets.
Using steight distilled water.
Jumpered from my Truck ideling at 14 1/5 volts and showing 10 amps current.
No production of bubbles. Got any ideas???

[Q-Hack!]

We justassembled a dry call design. it is 6 cells with 5 neutrals.
+nnnnn_nnnnn+nnnnn_nnnnn+nnnnn_nnnnn+
The plates are 51/2 by 5 1/2 inches. The gap is .100. We used 6 inch
square profile "O" rings for gaskets.
Using steight distilled water.
Jumpered from my Truck ideling at 14 1/5 volts and showing 10 amps current.
No production of bubbles. Got any ideas???

Distilled water does not conduct electricity. You need to mix in some form of electrolyte. The most recommended is Potassium Hydroxide or Sodium Hydroxide. Both of these give great results.

[Zzyzx]

Q_hack, thank you very much for the response. I add added about 2 tblespoons of baking soda. No response. Then we moved to 6 cells of 2 neutrals and the production just took off.

[H2OPWR]

You should dry the cell out and check for shorts with an ohm meter. You should have gotten zero to very little amp draw without electrolite. Better to find a short now than to waste 10 amps later and be dissapointed with production.

[daddymikey1975]

Q_hack, thank you very much for the response. I add added about 2 tblespoons of baking soda. No response. Then we moved to 6 cells of 2 neutrals and the production just took off.

and definitely stay away from baking soda. it'll muck up your generator.

[Zzyzx]

The baking soda has started to leave the brown sludge after 20 min.

The spacing on the plates?

what would be ideal?

will post pics. when we get that figured out.

Thanks in advance.

[daddymikey1975]

plate spacing can vary widely depending on the build..

Some use 1/16" other's use 1/8"..

my design calls for .040" spacing...when compressed I'm not sure how small the gap will be.

what's optimum will depend on your specific build.

There are several people using the O ring material as plate spacers with good results.

I hope this helps.
mike

[Zzyzx]

1053

1054

I hope this works.

zzyzx

[Zzyzx]

1059

1060

A couple more pics so you can see the O Ring usage. This is our first
endever and cannot wait to try.
Am now seaking KOH to replace the soda that we removed. Disassembled
and cleaned the brown muck and changed the lone up to
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[Zzyzx]

Sorry I forgot to add that the O Rings are 1/8th inch but I have tightened down to about .080 inches.

[H2OPWR]

Great looking set-up. With 5 n plates and .080 spacing You probably will have to use a stronger electrolite solution. I have had my share of trouble getting the amp draw I want with half that spacing. When testing a 5 n plate set-up make sure you are testing with automotive voltage. 13.7 to 14 volts. I kept making the electrolite but was pulling my hair out until Painless made the suggestion to try a little higher voltage. Just 7 tenths of an amp made a huge difference.

[DaneDHorstead]

The baking soda has started to leave the brown sludge after 20 min.

The spacing on the plates?

what would be ideal?

will post pics. when we get that figured out.

Thanks in advance.
45 thousands is ideal gap 0.045 is ever so slightly heavier than 1 mm