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mikem1977
10-28-2008, 10:04 AM
Hey whats up everyone? I purchased a cell off ebay to install in my little carbed p/u truck. Heres a link to it. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HHO-HYDRO...240%3A1318
Anyhow, the cell has 7 plates, the 2 outside plates on one side are positive, then 3 non connected plates, then 2 negative plates...so ++nnn--? I think its how you would describe that. Anyhow, ive been testing this thing on the bench for about 2 weeks on and off now, using distilled water and sodium hydroxide...ive tried 1/4 tspn to 1/2 per 32 oz of water.

Here are my results..trying to keep voltage right around 14 as it would be when the truck is running!
1/2 tspn starting current 9.3 amps made 350ml..water temp 75F.

One hour later
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.................................19.6 amps made 650ml water temp was now just over 200.........lots of steam and water being lost from the cell through the outlet hose. Amperage hit 25 within the next 30 minutes, shut the test down. Figure ill try again with less naoh.....


Fresh distilled water, 1/4tspn naoh, starting current 4.5, water temp 68F made 175ml.
One hour later current was 10.85, water temp 115F and made 425 ml
One hour later current was 15.5, water temp 150 and made 600 ml
One hour later current was 16, water was 209F....Had to shut down test....

Basicly the unit is heating to the point of boiling the water even with a lesser amp draw, it just takes more time. Im not sure if its a crappy design or if there is something im missing here???/Any ideas here would be great....Ive run a dozen or so tests and the end result is the same...2 much heat. I have seen this cell make 1lpm but I think half of it was steam...help me please...Mike...I posted this on another forum and have gotten some good input...but the more the better:)..thanks

Farmercal
10-28-2008, 12:11 PM
If I understand what you are saying about the way it is hooked up, then you have only three plates for the voltage to drop. 14 divided by 3 is about 4.6 volts which will generate heat. Also, if you have it all in an open bath container the current will jump throught the eletrolyte from negative to positive and just keep getting faster and faster as the unit heats up. Note: I am at work and can't look up that cell right now so I don't know what it looks like.

resago
10-28-2008, 02:11 PM
your link isn't working for me. that is the auction number?

rewire and make it -NNNNN+

mikem1977
10-28-2008, 03:00 PM
Sorry, heres a link.http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HHO-HYDROGEN-GENERATOR-COMPLETE-KIT-WATER-316L-7-PLATES_W0QQitemZ140277527042QQcmdZViewItem?hash=it em140277527042&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A727%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C2 40%3A1318
It has 2+ on the outside edge 3 neutrals then 2-'s on the other outside egde. The 2+ and 2-'s are just spaced with stainless washers instead of plastic washers so im assuming that is the configuration.The seller is gonna send me a couple more plates and washers to play with. SO would it be better if it were +nnnnnnn- if I had a total of nine plates? ....thanks everyone!

Farmercal
10-28-2008, 03:35 PM
You have to do the math. You divide the 14.? volts your vehicle puts out by the numbe of N plates you have to see how many volts will be dropped. For instance 14/7 (as indicated) is 2 volts per plate. That might be enough voltage to produce but you have to experiment and see.

My unit has 6 N plates and I haven't manage to get the electrolyte solution to a point to produce HHO yet. I am taking it slow as not to get too much KOH and skew my records.

resago
10-28-2008, 03:48 PM
N+1=# of cells.

mikem1977
10-28-2008, 05:36 PM
Thanks for the input!...Resago im not sure what your saying?