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JonDoh
10-04-2008, 03:54 AM
I would like to know if studies have been done to determine if the conversion process causes any premature deterioration of mechanical parts or damage to the vehicle long or short term??

Any documentation from anybody??

Riddler250
10-04-2008, 11:18 AM
I would like to know if studies have been done to determine if the conversion process causes any premature deterioration of mechanical parts or damage to the vehicle long or short term??

Any documentation from anybody??
Smith03 found that inside his engine(dont remember what part) the aluminum was pitting. i believe he is testing now to see if it is from electrolyte being used. As for now some are using a filter in the bubbler
to catch any electrolyte being sent to the engine via the gas. Search for threads started by him. i dont remember what he called it

Riddler250
10-04-2008, 11:23 AM
This is the openning post from Smith03jetta. on his warning warnin please read thread. i would like to think Smith03jetta for all his hard work , and for sharing alll his knowledge with the rest of us



Warning, There is a risk of damage to your aluminum engine parts.

It can be prevented but please read below...

I mentioned this on my thread but I'll repeat for you:

Both my HHO devices put out a pretty decent volume of gas (1 - 1.5 liters) but any device that puts out that much HHO also puts out some water vapor that contains trace amounts of your Electrolyte. That electrolyte is pulled in past your throttle body and into your intake and into your cylinders. The vapors will eventually settle on the aluminum parts and start to corrode them.

I did not find this out until this week. I had some Non-HHO related car problems. My Brake booster went out. I also had a bad vacuum hose on my fuel pressure regulator. I had a bad Coolant Temp Sensor too. When I tore down my engine to fix these problems I discovered the corroding aluminum parts.

I'm talking specifically about the Throttle body housing. It should have been nice and shiny after I cleaned it but it had lost it's shiny finish and was pitting in certain places, Heavy pitting was occurring near where the plastic air plenum connected to the throttle body. I also had mineral deposits on the side walls that were inhibiting the butterfly valve from freely moving. There's no way this could have occured under normal operating conditions. I've checked...

The only thing under my hood that could have caused it was the Sodium Hydroxide. It eats Aluminum for lunch.

I cleaned my throttle body. It had oil and chemical buildup on it. It was causing my engine to run like crap. After cleaning it and putting it back together my engine started running like new again.

The only problem I've got now is trying to FOOLPROOF my HHO gas output so I don't get any NaOH in my intake. Some people on this forum (Including myself, probably) have stated that the electrolyte will stay in the HHO generator but IT IS NOT TRUE! I've got a damaged throttle body to prove it. It still functions properly but it will eventually quit working if the corrosion gets much worse. I'll be out $500 to replace it.

Now you can do what you will with this information but I would sincerely recommend that EVERYBODY on this forum inspect your throttle body for corrosion, regardless of what electrolyte you are using in your HHO Gen. You may not be able to see the corrosion on your carb or throttle body but you can use throttle body cleaner to clean your throttle body and Carb cleaner to clean your Carb to be able to do an inspection. It is definitely worth the 5 to 10 dollars to clean your throttle body. Cleaning it will definitely make your car run better and use less gas even if you don't have corrosion.

Be extremely careful and gentle while cleaning your throttle body. I recommend removing it from your car to clean it. There are sensitive electronic components/sensors that can be damaged if you drop it or use carb cleaner instead of throttle body cleaner. Trust me on this. Look up instructions on GOOGLE for cleaning your specific type of throttle body. They will come in handy.

The throttle body should be shiny on the inside after cleaning. If it is not, then you've got problems.

This is a warning... Please take heed!