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hoboincidaho
09-26-2008, 03:31 PM
www.fumafumaenterprise.com

These are incredible for the price. It was engineered to compliment the coiled fumafuma electrode, but any electrode out there will fit in one of these. They're pretty compact and can be stacked back to back, or one on top of the other. I got 2 so one will be the storage tank/bubbler. My video is coming along swimmingly. Will post soon. :D
-idaho
www.HoboSound.com

resago
09-26-2008, 04:53 PM
lame.......

Smith03Jetta
09-26-2008, 05:31 PM
I think you need to post the specs for your case...

Temperature rating, warranty, dimensions, materials used in manufacturing...

That's the same price as a Pelican 1200 case... Looks like it is overpriced or it is made of space age materials or something... I'm confused...

Stevo
09-26-2008, 05:53 PM
www.fumafumaenterprise.com

These are incredible for the price. It was engineered to compliment the coiled fumafuma electrode, but any electrode out there will fit in one of these. They're pretty compact and can be stacked back to back, or one on top of the other. I got 2 so one will be the storage tank/bubbler. My video is coming along swimmingly. Will post soon. :D
-idaho
www.HoboSound.com

Sorry, I have to rip.


DO NOT SEND ME TO PAGES THAT STEAL MY BROWSER FOCUS, RESIZE MY WINDOW OR EVEN BEGIN TO SAY STUFF LIKE "DETECTING YOUR COMPUTER'S TIME"
DO POST SPECS FOR YOUR ELECTRICAL CONDUIT BOX
DON'T TRY AND SELL ME CURLED SHEETS OF STAINLESS STEEL AND CALL THEM ELECTRODES
DO LEARN TO BUILD AT LEAST A HALFWAY PROFESSIONAL (REPUTABLE) LOOKING WEBSITE BEFORE POSTING

Haywire Haywood
09-26-2008, 09:28 PM
$58 seems really steep in comparison to the Pelican box that looks stouter and has a hinged and o-ringed lid.

Ian

Smith03Jetta
09-26-2008, 11:13 PM
I didn't want to smack him around too bad but I tend to agree. His plates look like they cost about 5 bucks to make and his box looks like something dug out of a bargain bin somewhere. Post specs or quit trying to sell your stuff on this forum...

Oh by the way, my electrodes will not fit in that box as stated...

javierf
09-26-2008, 11:25 PM
Anybody paying that for that box or the coiled SS from "Fuma Fuma" has to be "Stoned Stoned"...

hoboincidaho
09-27-2008, 12:50 AM
I ordered one. I'll report when it comes in.

Geez I gotta stop being a web-sherpa.

Check out my site so you can see how to use these . If you have a less expensive alternative for a 3 LPM coiled setup like the fumafuma electrodes I bought, I'd love to hear it. Also, the metal needs to be coiled AND shaped; two processes entirely. They are precision made to maintain a gap. FUMAFUMA does this for you in 316 grade steel. I am into outdoor sound equipment (duh, HOBOSOUND.com) and 316 is awesome for outdoor speakers because they last, but its a pain to work with and shape.

Wow lots of slander on this one.
I'm a fumafuma customer and I've got a working unit. I get their parts cheap... so if its a price problem, they DO have the MAKE AN OFFER thing on ebay. As I've stated in previous posts, I've NEVER been denied an offer that I made to them. That should put an end to that...

Smith03Jetta: Bargain bin, eh, I think not. Check the specs. Message fuma if you have other questions. I don't need to do a search for you, IMHO, But I have too big of a heart. Specs are on the fuma's website or on ebay. This was designed for use with the coiled electrodes. Your plates wont fit in this container because they are too big. Mine fit in this container and give me 3 LPM as stated above. I will brag about it everywhere with a smile on my face. (Theres a pic of me smiling somewhere on my site if you need one.) Slander away at fumafuma all you want. Doing it in my post here wont hurt my feelings. :D

Haywire Haywood: I own a pelican case. However, I prefer to use the fuma case with the coiled electrode. My biggest peeve: I can't see INTO the pelican case. The pelican 1300 case is also a bit large for my motorcycle and *cough* VESPA applications. You need to choose your materials based on your individual project. I think we can all agree on that one. If you don't have space requirements for your generator, then you should be OK with your pelican cases.

Resago: Want to know what's lame? VESPAS. Little to NO storage room for an HHO unit. With the small footprint on this fuma container, I can maybe make it work. Challenges make me happy. Check out my interview on the WATERFUEL MUSEUM. Very un-lame.

Stevo: I suspect you should upgrade your browser as I having no problems using the latest FIREFOX or OPERA with HOBOSOUND.com. I found the specs on ebay.



Footnote: I am making a video on construction for the ELECTRODES as I've stated. You can send emails all you want asking when I will finish it, but my cameras are constantly used for MUSIC VIDEOS of bands in the New England area. I will post when my video is complete.



Keep asking questions. I'm only here to help.

hoboincidaho
09-27-2008, 01:06 AM
To Smith03Jetta: I like your work. I noticed that you did categorize yourself as a skeptic. Much respect to your posts.

Stevo
09-27-2008, 01:26 AM
Stevo: I suspect you should upgrade your browser as I having no problems using the latest FIREFOX or OPERA with HOBOSOUND.com. I found the specs on ebay.

I have the latest Firefox 3.0.2 update, thanks. Try better design and markup mmmkay. And the script thing that I mentioned is just bad customer experience and usability. Terrible -F. And I would be the one to tell you, trust me.

hoboincidaho
09-27-2008, 07:33 AM
Still unclear if you mean hobosound.com or the fuma site. Pm me your issue as I still see no problem with MY page. If its the fuma site, then go tell them. I honestly see no problem with either. :rolleyes:

Smith03Jetta
09-27-2008, 11:42 AM
Hobo,

No offense to you but I have a couple things to say.

First, I'll say that I did not slander anyone. Actually I think it is called liable if you are saying things that can damage someone's business venture.

You did not identify yourself as a customer of these products only posted it like it was a sales ad or something... That's why we snapped at you. It appeared rather unprofessional if you were trying to market your product...

Here's what I said, just to clear me from Slander or Liable...

"I think you need to post the specs for your case... Temperature rating, warranty, dimensions, materials used in manufacturing..."

MY OPINION... ALWAYS A GOOD IDEA. BTW, ON THEIR WEBSITE OR EVEN ON EBAY THEY ONLY SAY THAT THEY WILL HOLD UP TO HEAT... THEY DO NOT POST SPECIFIC TEMPERATURE TOLERANCES OR ANY MATERIAL COMPOSITION. WHAT ARE THEY MADE OF, WHAT TEMP WILL THEY RESIST... NO SPECS AS I STATED EARLIER... THEY ONLY POST THE SIZE OF THE BOX. THEY SAY IT IS 100% WATERPROOF BUT THAT DOESN'T SAY HOW THEY WERE TESTED... EXAMPLE... DOWN TO 3 METERS... UNLESS SOMETHING IS DESIGNED TO BE SUBMERGED THE SPECS SHOULD SAY THAT THEY ARE WATER RESISTANT, NOT WATERPROOF...

"That's the same price as a Pelican 1200 case... Looks like it is overpriced or it is made of space age materials or something... I'm confused..."

YOU CAN BUY A PELICAN CASE FOR UNDER $50.00 SO THAT IS CORRECT... IT DOES LOOK OVERPRICED BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. I AM CONFUSED... THAT'S A CORRECT STATEMENT...


"I didn't want to smack him around too bad but I tend to agree. His plates look like they cost about 5 bucks to make and his box looks like something dug out of a bargain bin somewhere. Post specs or quit trying to sell your stuff on this forum..."

IT IS MY OPINION THAT THEY LOOK INEXPENSIVE. I CAN MAKE THEM FOR 5 BUCKS. THAT'S A FACT. THEY DO LOOK LIKE THEY COULD BE DUG OUT OF A BARGAIN BIN SOMEWHERE. ANYTHING CAN BE DUG OUT OF A BARGAIN BIN. SOMEONE ELSE'S JUNK CAN BE SOMEONE ELSES TREASURE. NO SPECS ON THIS PRODUCT WAS POSTED... THAT'S TRUE.

Oh by the way, my electrodes will not fit in that box as stated...

IT WAS STATED THAT THE CASE WOULD WORK WITH ANY ELECTRODES. IT IS OBVIOUS THAT THAT IS NOT TRUE. I HAVE SOME ELECTRODES THAT WILL NOT FIT IN THE BOX... TRUE OR NOT???


**********

NOW WHAT CAN YOU READ INTO THIS AS SLANDER? LIABLE?

Now, hypothetically, if I said that you or the owner of Fuma Fuma ripped people off or sold products that break or that they take your money and deliver no product or experiment on Congan monkeys or any number of other things that can be classified as LIABLE or SLANDER...

I REST MY CASE.

Haywire Haywood
09-27-2008, 01:32 PM
Libel is a written or oral defamatory statement or representation that conveys an unjustly unfavorable impression

slander is the utterance of false charges or misrepresentations which defame and damage another's reputation.

Ian

hoboincidaho
09-27-2008, 01:57 PM
I think I'm doing pretty good at answering everyone's questions in a professional and timely manner.
I'd also like to point out I'm providing my experiences with these products for the benefit of everyone.
I also did provide you the link so you can see the specs for yourself. I don't see the problem...The website loads PERFECT for me.

But maybe it will help to post them here, as you requested.
These were taken from www.fumafumaenterprise.com :

Material:Acrylonitrile-butadiene-styrene SP


Enclosure Type Waterproof / Airtight / Explosion Proof
Length (inch) 7.87 in.
Width (inch) 5.51 in.
Depth (inch) 4.76 in.
Inside Length (inch) 7.24 in.
Operating Temp: Up to 230 F
Notes: Small footprint
Ideal for the working places where high heat is used.
Cover is made from clear lexan. Item is shipped dustproof.

Believe it. This is the real deal. Contact fumafuma for warranty information. I believe its the standard ebay policy.

Bottom line is: I can't make the coils. I cannot think of a way to make the coils with the precision and quality as I recieved mine. Lets say I wanted to make some, I'd have to pony up for machines and tools. Plus I eat the cost of the metal if I screw up. If you can make them for 5 dollars, I'll buy them from you. It's that simple.

H2OPWR
09-27-2008, 01:58 PM
Mr Smith,

I agree with you. My electrodes will not even come close to fitting in the box either. That is false advertising.

hoboincidaho
09-27-2008, 02:00 PM
Thanks Haywood for clearing that up.

hoboincidaho
09-27-2008, 02:42 PM
I do not agree with the false advertising statement.
Dimensions of this container are clearly given. I usually check that kind of stuff before I buy it. h2opwr your electrodes are too big. Try using a fumafuma electrode or reconfigure your existing one. Thats what this thread and this container are about. This container was specifically engineered as a space-saving answer for use with the coiled electrode, but will, in fact, fit many various custom plate configurations.

DaneDHorstead
09-27-2008, 02:45 PM
Gentlemen;

I don't point these words at any particular individual, or situation, but we are all basicly here for the same reason, and there is no need to even mention the words liable, or slander.

Like Ian, we are all here just trying to save gas!

United, we stand, divided we fall!

hoboincidaho
09-27-2008, 02:51 PM
Well put DaneDHorstead. Apologies all around for using the term "slander"! It opened a can of worms for sure.



-idaho

resago
09-27-2008, 03:28 PM
according to that ugly rich guy, as long as you put "in my opinion" at the end of every statement, its neither.:p

Smith03Jetta
09-28-2008, 12:19 AM
That's what I said, "My Opinion"..

I was just being an ASS, get over it and move on...

Sorry!

H2OPWR
09-28-2008, 01:18 AM
Hoboincidaho,

By the way you are defending this site I am sure it is yours or you would not be this passionate about it. I am General manager of a large business that has a 2 million dollar advertising budget. The statement that your case will fit "any electrode" means just that. You can not legaly make that statement if it is not 100% true. The statement "Explosion Proof" with no additional facts is also not legal as clearly not the case.

FuzzyTomCat
09-28-2008, 01:58 AM
Hi All,

Being the HHO generator is also called a Electrolyser a electrical device the definition should be compatible with such -

Apparatus enclosed in a case that is capable of withstanding an explosion of a specified gas or vapor that may occur within it and of preventing the ignition of a specified gas or vapor surrounding the enclosure by sparks, flashes, or explosions of the gas or vapor within, and that operates at such an external temperature that a surrounding flammable atmosphere will not be ignited thereby.

NEC ( National Electrical Code ) Article 100 - Explosionproof Apparatus

This is a "PLASTIC" box, make your own judgment .... I have. :eek:

Regards,
Fuzzy

Stevo
09-28-2008, 12:18 PM
Still unclear if you mean hobosound.com or the fuma site. Pm me your issue as I still see no problem with MY page. If its the fuma site, then go tell them. I honestly see no problem with either. :rolleyes:

It's the first site that is completely unprofessional and links to this page:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/waterfuel2007/va/2008/09/09/idaho-singer-songwriter-turned-hydrogen-cell-maker

Which says "Getting timezone information from your computer..... please wait".

Answer me this: If you are an enterprise, then don't you want an enterprise level/looking site?

I am really only hitting on the site at this point. Straight up, it just looks unprofessional and performs poorly. Then you combine that with the image of the electrical conduit box for $45 and the fact that we have already had soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many outsiders come here and try to rip us off.... Well you get a bit skeptical and quite annoyed. So, don't put me in your "slander" group. Take the site to any professional web developer and they will tell you the same thing. Keep on rolling those eyes...:rolleyes:

hoboincidaho
09-28-2008, 12:37 PM
H2OPWR:People ask questions and I have answers. Im not going to sugarcoat or defend fuma. Not my site or my product. I own 3 recording studios and a label, and I want to run a VESPA on HHO.

I will always defend my project that uses 2 fuma products. It works, and theres no way out of that one. Wait and see my video when I complete it. If you have any questions on how I used these, I'll be happy to answer.

FuzzyTomCat: Yeah I know what you mean. I looked into this before I bought it. Heres an article I found:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3726/is_199711/ai_n8780307

For these certification tests they use Hydrogen, but not HHO. I would say this is how this particular box must have obtained its rating. Also there are apparently different classes of explosionproof certification?
I carry my microphones and cables to and from jobs in certified PLASTIC explosionproof enclosures so they don't get splashback by musicians pounding beers and/or cigarette ashes. They sell 'em at guitarcenter and it says explosionproof right on the box.

hoboincidaho
09-28-2008, 12:45 PM
Stevo: No harm no foul. You didn't hurt my feelings. So long as nothing is wrong with HOBOSOUND.com, I'm happy. Im a skeptic myself. I've been ripped off twice when I bought completed units so now I buy parts.

With regard to their site, I actually stick to ebay when dealing with them.

bigapple
09-28-2008, 01:10 PM
Well regardless of whether or not your site is professionally designed, I think this topic is in the wrong forum. This is "general discussions," not ''promote your product here". I believe there is a forum on this site that lists items for sale. Maybe that section would better suit you with promoting your website and your products.