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pj91gsx
09-20-2008, 11:11 PM
where can I find lye. my friend says that drain cleaner is lye. Anyone know?

BoyntonStu
09-20-2008, 11:18 PM
where can I find lye. my friend says that drain cleaner is lye. Anyone know?

Lowes "Roebic" 100% NaOH $7-$8

BoyntonStu

scubasteve1043
09-20-2008, 11:20 PM
Yes it is in the form of drain cleaner. I got mine at lowes and its made by roebic in a yellow bottle. It is drain cleaner crystals and it was like $7.50 for a bottle and it will last you a really long time. If you look on the label it even says 100% Lye.

pj91gsx
09-21-2008, 12:09 AM
Yes it is in the form of drain cleaner. I got mine at lowes and its made by roebic in a yellow bottle. It is drain cleaner crystals and it was like $7.50 for a bottle and it will last you a really long time. If you look on the label it even says 100% Lye.

ok. well. I wonder if I can pick that up at a building supply I look monday what about wal mart?

mytoyotasucks
09-21-2008, 12:53 AM
just remember that NaOH is not lye - KOH is lye -check ebay - potassium hydroxide

pj91gsx
09-21-2008, 01:18 AM
just remember that NaOH is not lye - KOH is lye -check ebay - potassium hydroxide

well. from what was said about lye eating aluminum. I should go with NaOH right?

stroker
09-21-2008, 01:22 AM
just remember that NaOH is not lye - KOH is lye -check ebay - potassium hydroxide


I have made my own biodiesel with lye. When you mix it with methanol you get sodium methoxide. Lye is NaOH (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lye).

mytoyotasucks
09-21-2008, 03:26 AM
I have made my own biodiesel with lye. When you mix it with methanol you get sodium methoxide. Lye is NaOH (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lye).


ok than KOH is potash - its a soap ingredient.

and NaOH will harm u and ur car - dont breath it in and dont let it on ur bare hands - that goes for KPH also.

=read this - this will help - http://hhoforums.com/showthread.php?t=1162

stroker
09-21-2008, 03:32 AM
When I made bio diesel I would use a chemical respirator to keep from getting that crap in my lungs. That is some bad stuff (sodium methoxide).

pj91gsx
09-21-2008, 02:06 PM
cool. I dont have that stuff on hand so Im going to try baking soda for my first experiment.;)

donnylynn
09-21-2008, 02:09 PM
With baking soda your water will be contaminated with rust pretty quickly. I tried it and wished I hadnt. I ended up with 100% lye which I found in the drain cleaner section of Ace Hardware. 1 lb for about 5 dollars.

pj91gsx
09-21-2008, 02:14 PM
With baking soda your water will be contaminated with rust pretty quickly. I tried it and wished I hadnt. I ended up with 100% lye which I found in the drain cleaner section of Ace Hardware. 1 lb for about 5 dollars.

but its stainless steel. will it still rust?

donnylynn
09-21-2008, 03:05 PM
see the attached pix for what happened to my cell with baking soda.
the plates are 316 stainless.

pj91gsx
09-21-2008, 03:10 PM
see the attached pix for what happened to my cell with baking soda.
the plates are 316 stainless.

oh. did the plates themselves rust?

donnylynn
09-21-2008, 03:21 PM
yeah, some. Here is a pix of the electrolyte. I rinsed it out real well then refilled the generator with vinegar and ran it for a few hours and it cleaned it up pretty well.
I have since switched to NaOH (lye). My rust problems went away.
I figure I have put too much work into this to mess it up with baking soda.

pj91gsx
09-21-2008, 05:10 PM
yeah, some. Here is a pix of the electrolyte. I rinsed it out real well then refilled the generator with vinegar and ran it for a few hours and it cleaned it up pretty well.
I have since switched to NaOH (lye). My rust problems went away.
I figure I have put too much work into this to mess it up with baking soda.

well. like that warning thread said it did eat his aluminum. I may try the vinegar, but I hate the smell. Or I may try potash. Anyone know where to get potash?

mytoyotasucks
09-21-2008, 09:24 PM
cool. I dont have that stuff on hand so Im going to try baking soda for my first experiment.;)


just remember that it makes a bad gas.

pj91gsx
09-21-2008, 09:25 PM
just remember that it makes a bad gas.
does that gas clean the motor more.:D